Spark plug gap ? what is your experience??

Steph

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Gents, 2000 D2 with 54000 miles

Here's a short story: Last winter, as I was experiencing MPG that I thought was only possible with an 18 wheeler ( 9-10 m.p.g), I decided to change my spark plugs as one of the many steps to try and improve m.p.g.

I looked up the Champion web site and they have 3 classes of recommended plugs for the Disco.

Premium: Double platinum, premium gold and Iridium
Super : single platinum and truck plug
Regular: Traditional spark plug

anyways....

I went with the Premium gold, which is the cheapest of the premium class. Per the Champion web site, they are supposedly gapped to factory specs to 0.32 ???? I know that Land Rover recommends between 0.38 and 0.41. So I regapped the plugs to 0.41 to be within that range. And although the Disco was Idling very smoothly( but lower r.p.m than before at around 600 r.p.m compared to 700 before.), I was questionning the fact that maybe the plugs were designed to be gapped at the 0.32 that Champion claimed was the stock setting for the Disco....And also thought that since these plugs are not the pin needle electrode type, but the same type as any regular plug like the truck plug, this would reinforce my thoughts of these plugs needing to be gapped lower than 0.41.


So...I was relaxing in my garage the other day ,looking for something to do and decided to re-gap the plugs to 0.38 ( to be at the lowest recommended gap by LR). I noticed that although the plugs had only been in for a couple of weeks, the ground was already covered in flat black sooth. Anyways,The Truck was Idling smoothly at the same r.p.m as when at 0.41 (so no change there) but I noticed that my M.P.G which had improved from 9-10 m.p.g to 12-13 m.p.g seems to have gone down again.

And Finally the question....... I'm under the understanding that the bigger the spark plug gap that the ignition is powerfull enough to jump, the better the fuel is burned and the better the engine runs all around, producing better m.p.g. Am I right or wrong, and second, what gap do you run on your plugs???and third, what plugs do you run???

I will sometime soon, change the wires, but my question now is regarding the plug gapping.

Thanks,

Steph
 

Steph

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Didn't know that the stock ignition was powerfull enough to jump such a gap.

Are you using aftermarket less restrictive wires??? Or are you using the stock wires or ones that have as much restriction???
 
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For what it's worth, I pulled out my old plugs and they were gapped at nearly .55. :eek: I've only had this truck for about 6 months... but it was running rather well with that gap. I changed the plugs due to regular maintenence. Out of the box, the new plugs were gapped at .41 - truck runs great.

New wires are next.
 

cyoc62

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Where's the short story?

On my 95 DI, I've used Autolite (I think) and Champion; w/ two brands of wires, (unknown and Beck Arnley). I split the differnce in the plug gap recommendation and it seems to run the same either way. I wonder what would happen with the larger gap?
 
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So...I was relaxing in my garage the other day ,looking for something to do and decided to re-gap the plugs to 0.38

Looking for something to do? You couldnt find anything else that needed attention?

I think you are chasing a ghost. Set the gap to spec and ship it.
 

Herkvet

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This is what I gleaned off of Dr. Jacob's ignition book:

Bigger gap--better performance, better economy, but plugs wear out quickly.
Smaller gap--Plugs last longer, but at the expense of lower performance and economy.
Auto makers usually try to find a happy medium between the two.

With traditional spark plugs, optimum performance gap can be found by starting at recommended gap and increasing by .002" increments until performance/mileage numbers level with a steady idle, then back .002".
IMO--It's allot of work to find the optimum gap, so I jump it up by .010" and call it good if it idles well.
 

Steph

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I agree Chris, but specs is between .038 and .041. Why??? Is it that out in the jungle they gap their plugs with their finger nails:rofl: Being specific would resolve everything.

And to be honest, I thought I would have gotten a more theoritical answer coming from you Mr. St-Louis. When searching,I found very interesting reading coming from you, but no mention of plug gap. The other posts requesting plug gap information,were not very conclusive. So I decided to try and settle this since I am myself questionning the matter.

Cheers,

Steph.
 
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Steph said:
I agree Chris, but specs is between .038 and .041. Why??? Is it that out in the jungle they gap their plugs with their finger nails:rofl: Being specific would resolve everything.

And to be honest, I thought I would have gotten a more theoritical answer coming from you Mr. St-Louis. When searching,I found very interesting reading coming from you, but no mention of plug gap. The other posts requesting plug gap information,were not very conclusive. So I decided to try and settle this since I am myself questionning the matter.

Cheers,

Steph.


Aw shoot, I didnt want to go into a longwinded thing about spark plugs again. I figured someone would be bored with it. :)


Fact is, you are correct that you can produce more power with a tuned gap. The real serious guys mark the spark plug so that the flame kernal points to the fuel spray.

In a Land ROver, shoot in any brands street car... The difference is going to be so small its not worth the frustration and time....

As far as in the feild. Rover spark plug gap of .040 is 1mm. Easy for our Metric using friends to remember.

If your just interested in the science of it.... Experiment away. If your looking for some real gains in power or economy, you're wasting your time.


Mr St Louis..... I like it!!!
 

MUSKYMAN

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I have run Jacobs systems on my scout and my Volvo's eons ago...so I am in 100% agreement to the larger gap better performance and mileage scenario.

I have run my plugs in my D1 as wide as .55 but .5o seams to be the sweet spot

the DII I just went ahead and went to the .50 because I figured that the newer higher tech ignition would be atleast as good as the D1's and all it see's is pretty easy use compared to the D1 that gets used hard and put away wet.

the reason that factory specs are what they are is that the factory has to balence performance with neglect...most people do not change there plugs enough therfore the spec is for a smaller gap. just about any ignition will fire a .50 gap from what I have seen.
 

Steph

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Thanks guys, I just came back from the garage ( cause I was bored and didn't know what to do)L.O.L anyhow, I re-gapped the plugs to .045. I'll see what happens from there.
 
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BilP

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This has to be a hoax right? No one has a LR that doesn't require something needing to be done to it!

Seriously tho, I think you may have helped me solve my miss problem. I'm going to try to open up the gaps and see if that helps.

Thanks, BilP
01 D2
 

SGaynor

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Damn!

I just replaced my plugs at .40 (like last weekend; copper Champions), and now I'm tempted to pull them and regap at 0.5. But my chewed up hands are saying NOOOOOO!

('03 DII HSE)
 

agbuckle98

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SGaynor said:
Damn!

I just replaced my plugs at .40 (like last weekend; copper Champions), and now I'm tempted to pull them and regap at 0.5. But my chewed up hands are saying NOOOOOO!

('03 DII HSE)


Had fun changing your '03 plugs eh? I helped a friend do his plugs on his '03, what a PITA!!!!
 
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Steph

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YA, I know watchamean. When I came back from gapping them to 0.45, I red the post about going to 0.50 with no problem. but I said chuck it. It'll stay like that until I get better wires.
 

Ed Cheung

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Oh, Chris is going to love this, Our dealer is no longer selling Champion Spark plugs, they are selling NGK BPR6ES, the normal plugs.
 
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Ed Cheung said:
Oh, Chris is going to love this, Our dealer is no longer selling Champion Spark plugs, they are selling NGK BPR6ES, the normal plugs.

NGK's are OK......here in Oz you can't get U.S.-made Champions for LR's....and the locally made Champions have a very poor reputation......the Japanese made NGK's are generally regarded as the best choice over here......I've been quite happy with them!:)