Speed Channel on the new Rangie

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In 2012 GM is supposed to have Hydrogen powered cars with production gaining speed in 2013. Rover's V-8's will hardly be sought after when you have diesel, hybrid, and H20 powerplants competing.
 

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F18Guy said:
In 2012 GM is supposed to have Hydrogen powered cars with production gaining speed in 2013. Rover's V-8's will hardly be sought after when you have diesel, hybrid, and H20 powerplants competing.


You know, I kind of wonder what will happen if everyone that has a car now switches over to H20 engines.. The exahust is water vapor right? So are we going to flood our asses off this planet or what? Talk about humidity.. ugh..
 

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LOL Eric....too much Humidity. Maybe we'll become a tropical country :)

BMW, Mazda, and I think Saab already have H20 protos in test, however from what I read; GM is the only one with a target year for production. Since Panasonic denied GM technology rights to their fancy batteries, GM must now act on their own...which in my opinion will spur fuel cell advancement.
 

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wanna trade locations?

Only if you have a house in Alaska... SC is out and I'm not a fan of CT or any where in the New England area for the most part.

edit: actually I take that back, I'd be a fan of CT or the New England area if all the people would leave and it was back to wide open wilderness.. The people though, ruin it for me.
 

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It’s a crucial model, and with this in mind, the new Range Rover will feature a key development: an aluminum bodyshell.

The centerpiece of the Range Rover’s ambitious makeover is an aluminum bodyshell riveted and glued together using technology already proven on Jaguar’s XJ sedan.

An *aluminium* body. Gee, I wonder where they ever got a radical idea like that?
 

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F18Guy said:
In 2012 GM is supposed to have Hydrogen powered cars with production gaining speed in 2013. Rover's V-8's will hardly be sought after when you have diesel, hybrid, and H20 powerplants competing.

In 1990, I was working on developing fuel cells at Allied-Signal (now Honeywell). The plan was for hydrogen cars in ten years.

It's now 2007, and I'm still hearing "in ten years"

:rofl:
 

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SGaynor said:
In 1990, I was working on developing fuel cells at Allied-Signal (now Honeywell). The plan was for hydrogen cars in ten years.

It's now 2007, and I'm still hearing "in ten years"

I guess the corporate regime that runs this country was not / still not quite ready to advance yet. :banghead:
 

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"Land Rover engineers are understood to be confident that they know enough about the effects of off-road driving on aluminum to be sure of no durability or warranty problems"

Ya like that thing will ever see any off-roading! :smilelol: I don't think they need to worry them selves with it.
 

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Eric N. said:
You know, I kind of wonder what will happen if everyone that has a car now switches over to H20 engines.. The exahust is water vapor right? So are we going to flood our asses off this planet or what? Talk about humidity.. ugh..

H2O (water vapour) is also the largest contributor to global warming...
Environmentally friendly???

Water Vapour
 
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QCNR said:
H2O (water vapour) is also the largest contributor to global warming...
Environmentally friendly???



So what do you propose? Outlawing volcanoes? Water is the largest component released in a volcanic eruption, and a good large eruption can release more than people do in a year...
 

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So what do you propose? Outlawing volcanoes? Water is the largest component released in a volcanic eruption, and a good large eruption can release more than people do in a year...
:banghead: :banghead:

Why is it that environmentalists bang on about CO2 emissions??
But it is supposed to be more environmentally friendly to drive around using H as fuel?
H2O has a greater capacity to cause global warming, than CO2.

Think before you write :banghead:

The topic was based on vehicle emissions in the future, not natural geological events.
 
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QCNR said:
:banghead: :banghead:

Why is it that environmentalists bang on about CO2 emissions??
But it is supposed to be more environmentally friendly to drive around using H as fuel?
H2O has a greater capacity to cause global warming, than CO2.

Think before you write :banghead:

The topic was based on vehicle emissions in the future, not natural geological events.


I didn't say a thing about CO2 emissions... I fully concur with you that H2O is a more significant greenhouse gas than CO2.

Even if every vehicle out there is H+ powered and only giving off H2O, though, it's still a smaller contribution than what natural processes are already contributing. That's my point, and what you weren't thinking of when reading what I wrote.


Now, to look at the other side: does that mean that additional H2O should be unregulated as exhaust just because natural processes contribute more? That's the question you were trying to drive the conversation towards...

The problem from my perspective is, there's always give-n-take. People push solar power, but the battery technology isn't behind it yet, the chemicals inside the solar cells mean you're mining some nasty things for the production of... wind power, ideal generation sites are in bird migratory routes, they have a decimating effect on bat populations, and the vibrations from them cause bee hives to scatter... nuclear, where are you going to put the spent waste? Hydroelectric, you cut off sediment delivery enrichment to downstream floodplains, cut fish migration routes, and fill in with sediment... Hydrogen, sure, sounds great having water as the exhaust, but you've got to get the hydrogen into a usable state beforehand, meaning you're expending more energy overall.

I think about energy issues a lot. It's my job, afterall.....
 

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Looks like a fooking Toyota.

"Gerry McGovern, and his Gaydon-based team are working on distinct styling directions for Land Rover and Range Rover under the buzz words “premium adventure” for Land Rover and “premium sophistication” for Range Rover."

Gaydon = explains the styling.

"Premium Adventure" = We're going to massively lighten your wallet so you can cruise the mall looking like Crocadile Dundee in your Armani suit.

"Premium Sophistication" = The fooking LR Techs will never be able to figure out how to fix it when it breaks, so we'll replace parts until you have a $10,000 repair bill that is warrantied 10 feet or 10 seconds after you leave the lot, whichever comes first.
 
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