: 08-14-05 --
The transcript
CALLER: “A lot of white police officers – I’m not saying all of them – they respond to blacks in a negative way because of fear…And I’ll tell you what brings on fear: ignorance.”
KAOS: I agree with him
SYLLI ASZ: Out of fear. They’re trying to protect themselves because they don’t know…
KAOS: …What they’re dealing with.
SYLLI ASZ: They don’t know how to react to a black person being loud, or being aggressive or whatever.
KAOS: We loud people. We loud people. A black person can’t whisper, man. You ever tell a secret to a black person?
SYLLI ASZ: Ain’t no such thing. Ain’t no such thing, boy.
KAOS: They don’t know how to whisper. (in a whisper) This is whispering. (normal voice) When your voice is still coming through.
SYLLI ASZ: You’ve got to put a little bass in it.
KAOS: (laughing) Man, I am telling you.
SYLLI ASZ: (unintelligible example of whispering)
KAOS: Yeah, you know what I’m saying, we know you was just talking, then you turn away and look like they weren’t really looking.
SYLLI ASZ: (unintelligible)
KAOS: This is how we are, as a people. You know what I’m saying? But I will say in the defense of police officers – and this is not a black/white thing, I want to say that, make sure you understand that. It is not a black or white thing. Because there are some black officers out here just like the white cats, just like some of the white guys out here. They’ll be on you, just because.
SYLLI ASZ: Right.
KAOS: You know what I’m saying? I will say this. (pause) Eighty percent I would say of police officers out here are punks.
SYLLI ASZ: Punks?
KAOS: Meaning without the badge and the gun, they are nothing.
SYLLI ASZ: Oh yeah, I agree.
KAOS: You know what I’m saying? And this is how you test it. I’ve known several officers to tell me that cats mouth off and they’re all tough and they’re gangster-gangster when they take them to the station.
SYLLI ASZ: Right.
KAOS: “Take of that gun. Take off that bulletproof vest. What’s up? What’s up?” And you will get those who will take their gun and their badge off. Those are the ones who aren’t no punks. Because they’ll go head up with you.
SYLLI ASZ: Well, let’s go then.
KAOS: Some of the cats, you know what I’m saying?
SYLLI ASZ: Well, let’s go then.
KAOS: They’ll actually put their gun and their badge, all of that stuff, make sure all of their stuff is secure so you ain’t got no weapons. And they’ll go head up with you. Then they’ll pull your hole card.
SYLLI ASZ: “Hold this for me, dawg. What’s all that stuff you talking about? If you can whoop me right now, I’ll let you go.”
KAOS: There’s some police officers out here that will get down like that. Let me ask you a question, Sylli Asz. Let’s say you’re a gangster-gangster. You’re tough.
SYLLI ASZ: Uh-uh.
KAOS: You get a police officer saying, “I will whoop you.” If you whoop this dude, one-on-one, and he releases the handcuffs, what’s the first thing you’re going for? If he don’t take his gun off, but he’ll go head-up with you? What’s the first thing I’m going for?
SYLLI ASZ: What’s the first thing I’m going for? If he doesn’t take this gun off?
KAOS: Exactly.
SYLLI ASZ: Uh, I’m going to go for his walkie-talkie.
KAOS: OK. Give me some of that, give me some dap, you’re a smart man. You take his backup.
SYLLI ASZ: (laughing)
KAOS: Because that’s the first thing he’s going to do is call for backup. You’re a smart man if you take the walkie-talkie. Most people are going to go for the gun. No dawg. Because you don’t want the hound, boy. Because when he calls the cavalry, the cavalry will come and you will not win.
SYLLI ASZ: So I’m going to take it before he can call his boys, you know what I’m saying?
KAOS: You’re a smart man. I can’t believe you actually said that, you actually have some smarts about you.
SYLLI ASZ: I ain’t no stupid dude. (laughing)
KAOS: You go for the backup. Hey look, I will say this, to the cops out there – and the cops know who they are, man, the ones who ain't no punks, you know what I’m saying? – keep doing what you do. Because they are the ones who hold it down in the streets for real. Without their gun, with that mace, what do you got?
SYLLI ASZ: A uniform
KAOS: You got a uniform. And when you go out there to protect and serve, dawg, if you didn’t have a gun, what could you do? Whistle? First of all, you’ve got to be aware of those cats that’s able to fight.
SYLLI ASZ: Right.
KAOS: The worst police to join the force is the cat who used to be a former bouncer or boxer.
SYLLI ASZ: You don’t want to see them.
((…later Kaos brings up Kevin Johnson, the 19 year old who killed Sgt. McEntee a week earlier))
KAOS: We’re not saying he was right or wrong, you know what I’m saying. He was wrong, you know what I’m saying, for what he did, but we don’t know what type of mind frame he was in.
SYLLI ASZ: We don’t know.
KAOS: No one knows what kind of mind frame the dude was in.
SYLLI ASZ: Right.
KAOS: The news only shows you one side of the story. But we had dozens of people who called in yesterday.
SYLLI ASZ: The people of Meacham Park.
KAOS: And of Kirkwood. They were saying this officer, as well as other officers out there, were always harassing people.
SYLLI ASZ: It’s like they had it coming, that’s what they were saying. KAOS: That is what (voice emphasized) they were saying.
SYLLI ASZ: Like, “They’ve been doing this. They brought it on themselves, or something like this, the harassment they’re doing out there.” And if a police officer don’t listen to these people, then they’ve got to see that the kind of stuff you all are doing out here might bring this kind of action to you, you know what I’m saying?
KAOS: That’s kind of bad.
SYLLI ASZ: When you harass people for no reason.
KAOS: What is harassment?
SYLLI ASZ: Bothering me. I ain’t doing nothing, you know what I’m saying. You pulled me over for nothing, for driving just like the person next to me driving the same speed. Nobody breaking the speed limit.
KAOS: Plus my car is a little older than his, though. My door ain’t matching the rest of the color of my car.
SYLLI ASZ: Just because my door is red and the rest of my car is white.
KAOS: I was in a car accident and I don’t got money and it was my fault, and insurance wasn’t going to cover it.
SYLLI ASZ: I just fixed a little dent.
KAOS: I just had liability.
SYLLI ASZ: Right. What’s wrong with that? That ain’t against the law.
KAOS: It’s not, but still, damn.
SYLLI ASZ: It might bring attention, but you know.
KAOS: So we brought that up yesterday. We talked about that yesterday. We saw a whole different twist on it – the news showing the good side of it, what the dude did. And people from the streets. They didn’t show, uh, Kevin Johnson’s associates. You know what I’m saying? (impersonating a TV reporter) We went in, we spoke with Jerron Patterson (made up name) about what went on with Kevin Johnson. And here he was, Dick Ford.
SYLLI ASZ: (As “Jerron Patterson”) You know what I’m saying, Kevin was a cool dude. I don’t even know what got into him. But police been out here, they’ve been doing this.
KAOS: (jumps in with TV newscaster voice) “Officer’s also said.” That’s how they cut you off. That’s how they cut you off. They didn’t even show that side of it. It just shows, “Cop killer da da da da da.”
SYLLI ASZ: Right.
((They discuss more before ending with Kaos))
KAOS: We heard the streets speak yesterday. The news ain’t going to show the streets. They’re going to show you what they want you to see.
((Later a woman calls and responds to the worst police department contest and the Meacham Park shooting discussion with the comment, “These cops got what they #$%$# they deserved.”))
KAOS: But no one deserves to die, baby, for real.
CALLER: You’re right. His little brother didn’t deserve to die, either.
KAOS: We had two deaths, two losses. And that’s the whole thing. A lot of people are trying to make it a racial thing. But you’ve got really look at it for what it’s worth. I don’t think nobody deserves to die. The officer may have done what he did, who knows what happened. But no one deserves to die, though.
((discussion continues))
KAOS: Our condolences go out to the family.
SYLLI ASZ: Both families.
KAOS: Both families. You know what I’m saying? Kevin Johnson’s and the officer who was killed in the line of duty. That’s crazy, dawg. That’s crazy. That comment was crazy. These views, again, are not necessarily the views of the Janky Boys.
SYLLI ASZ: Or Clear Channel or 100.3 The Beat.
KAOS: This is what the people say. This is not what I think. Not my view.
SYLLI ASZ: Not my view.
KAOS: It’s their opinion. I don’t what nobody saying, “They’re being racist. They’re being racist.” This whole thing has stirred up something crazy.
((At the end of the show, the DJs announced the winners of the worst police department contest: Jennings, St. Louis County, and St. Louis City 3rd Dist. They said that being on the list is a good thing))
SYLLI ASZ: It really means you’re doing your job.
KAOS: It means you’ve got respect. If people call in to complain….If you’re one of the people that people hate on, you’re doing you job. Negative publicity is positive publicity.
