The future
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I am impressed, but can somebody please explain this to me, I mean, what is it about?
"It has a combined average fuel consumption of 33.2 mpg and as with all Land Rovers, the carbon dioxide generated by Land Rover?s manufacturing activities and UK customers' vehicle use for the first 45,000 miles has been balanced through an industry leading offset programme run by Climate Care."
"It has a combined average fuel consumption of 33.2 mpg and as with all Land Rovers, the carbon dioxide generated by Land Rover?s manufacturing activities and UK customers' vehicle use for the first 45,000 miles has been balanced through an industry leading offset programme run by Climate Care."
What a crock.
Record sales year? Barely. Marketing spin at its best. Land Rover sold just over 1.1K LR3 units in the US last month. LR3 sales are down 17% on a monthly basis, 13% CYTD. Total sales are down 10%. There was a time when Land Rover sold over 2K units per month with the Discovery.
Question - how has CO2 been reduced with this horse trading? Zero. Second why should I pay these idiots, Climate Care, for a problem that doesn't exist? How much is a Land Rover without the 'Climate Care' tax?
Maybe Land Rover should figure out why LR3 sales are running almost half of the Discovery before worrying about non-existent issues. Pretty soon Ford will cut Land Rover's CO2 contribution to zero. Don't get me wrong, I love Land Rovers but they really do need to get off their dead asses and stop selling 'Life Styles'.
Following on from the most important period of product launch for Land Rover and another record sales year, Land Rover will show its all-new product line-up at the 2007 Geneva Motor Show.
Record sales year? Barely. Marketing spin at its best. Land Rover sold just over 1.1K LR3 units in the US last month. LR3 sales are down 17% on a monthly basis, 13% CYTD. Total sales are down 10%. There was a time when Land Rover sold over 2K units per month with the Discovery.
It has a combined average fuel consumption of 33.2 mpg and as with all Land Rovers, the carbon dioxide generated by Land Rover’s manufacturing activities and UK customers' vehicle use for the first 45,000 miles has been balanced through an industry leading offset programme run by Climate Care.
Question - how has CO2 been reduced with this horse trading? Zero. Second why should I pay these idiots, Climate Care, for a problem that doesn't exist? How much is a Land Rover without the 'Climate Care' tax?
Maybe Land Rover should figure out why LR3 sales are running almost half of the Discovery before worrying about non-existent issues. Pretty soon Ford will cut Land Rover's CO2 contribution to zero. Don't get me wrong, I love Land Rovers but they really do need to get off their dead asses and stop selling 'Life Styles'.
Carbon offset, you know, like Al Gore.KngTgr said:
You determine how much carbon is created by your activities, whether that's manufacturing cars or heating your pool house, then you buy "credits" in some activity that offsets the carbon you create.
For example, you could pay to have trees planted, since the trees absorb carbon, and you are emitting carbon, if you plant enough trees, you will be carbon neutral.
oh shit!
I LOVE that calculator on the web site!!
I need one of those! I tell you how to offset your "carbon footprint", and you send me a check!!!
bwahahahahaaahahahahahahaaaa!!!
I LOVE that calculator on the web site!!
I need one of those! I tell you how to offset your "carbon footprint", and you send me a check!!!
bwahahahahaaahahahahahahaaaa!!!
We should consider the future to be vehicles that get well over 55 MPG which is about the max out there today. 33 really is not all that good and there are plenty of gas vehicles that do that well (my Outback gets 30). For a Land Rover its quite good.
Ok, that clarifies it, Thanks.jim-00-4.6 said:
So that means that part of the profits of the company are going to purchase those credits, so at the end, those expenses are passed to the consumers? that sucks,
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Sorry, but this bothers me more:
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“Land Rover has a long tradition of allowing customers to order vehicles to suit their needs but this new programme allows the greatest degree of personalisation ever offered to Freelander customers,” Edwards added.
The list of options includes: 19-inch sports wheels, a sports styling pack, Audio Connectivity Module (ACM) for iPod/MP3 connectivity, Rear Seat Entertainment (rear screens and DVD player), body colour mirror caps and sill strips, all shown at Geneva.
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So land rover special vehicles has changed its name to West Soli Customs and can pimp yo ride straight from the factory. I wonder if the LRSV badge comes in gold...or maybe gem'ed out with some sparklies...yeah, they are talking about the freelander, but still...
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“Land Rover has a long tradition of allowing customers to order vehicles to suit their needs but this new programme allows the greatest degree of personalisation ever offered to Freelander customers,” Edwards added.
The list of options includes: 19-inch sports wheels, a sports styling pack, Audio Connectivity Module (ACM) for iPod/MP3 connectivity, Rear Seat Entertainment (rear screens and DVD player), body colour mirror caps and sill strips, all shown at Geneva.
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So land rover special vehicles has changed its name to West Soli Customs and can pimp yo ride straight from the factory. I wonder if the LRSV badge comes in gold...or maybe gem'ed out with some sparklies...yeah, they are talking about the freelander, but still...
What is really disheartening is that when you explain this whole scam to your blind ideologue friends, complete with block diagrams, simple logic and basic accounting principles, they still think the guy is some kind of hero.
I'm beginning to think that Al Gore is perhaps the most effective marketing genius (read: spin-meister) in the universe.
I totally agree with diesel being the best solution for now. All those hybrids claim they get 60+ mpg, but it just isn't true. The Prius gets in the 40's if you're lucky and light on the gas pedal. A diesel VW Golf will easily and consistently get around 50. So until they hydrogen cars become mainstream, I'd be going with diesel.
Too bad our government and the oil companies don't see it this way. Why is it that diesels are so uncommon here, when in Europe almost every kind of car has one as an option? I'm not buying the diesel pollution bullshit. You can't tell me the gov't is concerned with pollution, yet eliminated emissions tests in many counties in this state.
Too bad our government and the oil companies don't see it this way. Why is it that diesels are so uncommon here, when in Europe almost every kind of car has one as an option? I'm not buying the diesel pollution bullshit. You can't tell me the gov't is concerned with pollution, yet eliminated emissions tests in many counties in this state.
yeah these carbon credits make me laugh
so if i kill someone its allright, because I have impregnated and given life to many children...this makes me better then neutral right?
so if i kill someone its allright, because I have impregnated and given life to many children...this makes me better then neutral right?
How about this?
So that seems to mean that unless the new diesels come to the US (marginally possible), all you can get now will be a supercharged petrol?
So now the base price of a RR goes from $72K to $90K? And an RRC $55K to $70K? Or are they going to continue to supply them here? But seeing how we have always had a reduced model range here in the US, that seems a bit doubtful.
Sorry, but it's another shovelful of dirt on the LR coffin for me.
Oh yeah, and BTW, re:customisation. Didn't there used to (in the 90s) be extremely FEW options? IIRC, the DII only had about 5-10 things/packages to choose from, about the same for the RR. That was because it was all STANDARD. Not anymore...gone right to the American system - yeah, it's a nice car, but if you want it to be REALLY nice, tack on about $10K in options.
So that seems to mean that unless the new diesels come to the US (marginally possible), all you can get now will be a supercharged petrol?
So now the base price of a RR goes from $72K to $90K? And an RRC $55K to $70K? Or are they going to continue to supply them here? But seeing how we have always had a reduced model range here in the US, that seems a bit doubtful.
Sorry, but it's another shovelful of dirt on the LR coffin for me.
Oh yeah, and BTW, re:customisation. Didn't there used to (in the 90s) be extremely FEW options? IIRC, the DII only had about 5-10 things/packages to choose from, about the same for the RR. That was because it was all STANDARD. Not anymore...gone right to the American system - yeah, it's a nice car, but if you want it to be REALLY nice, tack on about $10K in options.
