The New Rig

ERover82

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Dan purposefully interprets everything in the most retarded way possible. He then drags the issue on while squeezing out of his target every ounce of rage and tears they have in them until they curl up in the fetal position and cry uncle.
 

garrett

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Really? You wouldn't want to debate some owners on this. If you can stand the same car/truck for years on end it's not uncommon to see a Toyota with 300K on the clock and only minimal work and parts. The damn things never break, ever. Don't take this literal, starters, batt, plugs, wires, sensors, brakes, yes, they need attention.

Exactly.

That solid door sound or better seating position in a LR is easily forgotten when you have 250K miles on the clock and there's very little thought to a new buyer about that being an issue.

The Hilux I drive now has 200KM on it and the truck is as tight as anything. Hardly broken in. Not to mention it gets heavily used in training. Just oil changes and brake pads in the past 3 years on all six Hiluxes. I take that back - we had a starter go bad two weeks ago on one. Piece of crap.
 

garrett

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It's a nice truck, should have gone with the 3rd gen. Try www.toyota-4runner.org, a lot of kids but there are some older guys that are nice and very helpful. You will find the forums you mentioned to be the best resources.

As for the value, I paid $9,500 for our 2001 four years ago (99K) and put 50K on it. I'm sure I could get 5 or 6K for it today. It's mint, almost showroom. The 5VZ is discussed as one of the best motors Toyota has ever made, but, this is up for debate and not necessarily my own opinion. :)

Oh you could get more for it. Like I said, I sold my '99 with 165K on it for $6K in 2014. That's about retail for it, but still good. I've been looking again and '99/'00 4Runners that are clean in the 150K range are still $4,500-6,500.
 

SGaynor

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Exactly.

That solid door sound or better seating position in a LR is easily forgotten when you have 250K miles on the clock and there's very little thought to a new buyer about that being an issue.

The Hilux I drive now has 200KM on it and the truck is as tight as anything. Hardly broken in. Not to mention it gets heavily used in training. Just oil changes and brake pads in the past 3 years on all six Hiluxes. I take that back - we had a starter go bad two weeks ago on one. Piece of crap.

I've had my Tacoma ('03, 158k mi) less than a month, and yes, the interior is no where near what my disco's is (I was thinking: can you transplant the seats? that would be great)

But I've changed fluids, I'll be replacing the timing belt/water pump this weekend. Probably change the plugs/wires this spring (but no real need to). Rear brakes might need to be replaced. Shocks are likely done, but can wait a while.

It'll be nice to not have to worry about my vehicle. (Of course my DII that my daughter drives has a coolant leak that I need to track down, the transfer case is leaking and I can't get the fill port open, among a variety of other little things)
 

kennith

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Dan purposefully interprets everything in the most retarded way possible. He then drags the issue on while squeezing out of his target every ounce of rage and tears they have in them until they curl up in the fetal position and cry uncle.

That's giving him far too much credit. He's not that clever, but lately we've been letting him get away with thinking he is.

Precision in communication is important, but it's worthless without accuracy.

Indeed, I hope he doesn't do his own taxes, because yet again he's standing in the kiddy section just so he can say he's in a pool with capable swimmers. It's another classic example of Dan knowing just enough to sound as if he knows something, and then pulling out before people realize he's reached the extent of his argument.

His internet attitude belongs in a can of light beer, because he's got a nasty habit of punching above both his experience and intellectual weight class; then retreating into logical fallacy and statements hidden in a cloud of the assumptions brought by unsuspecting readers.

He's not a troll, nor is he a master of manipulation.

He's a jackass that lays very simple traps; so simple, in fact, that nobody else on the field would even consider them. Were they clever traps, it would be interesting and impressive.

Unfortunately, they are not.

He could be laughing his ass off over there, for all I know. If he is, however; if he thinks he's having fun and amusing others, he absolutely is, but for different reasons than he might think.

Dan reminds me of Cartman in this particular episode of South Park:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartman_Sucks

I have fun arguing with Dan and reading his various posts. I know he's full of shit, though. Not everyone does, and one of these days, he's going to accidentally fuck someone because of that.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

garrett

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I've had my Tacoma ('03, 158k mi) less than a month, and yes, the interior is no where near what my disco's is (I was thinking: can you transplant the seats? that would be great)

But I've changed fluids, I'll be replacing the timing belt/water pump this weekend. Probably change the plugs/wires this spring (but no real need to). Rear brakes might need to be replaced. Shocks are likely done, but can wait a while.

It'll be nice to not have to worry about my vehicle. (Of course my DII that my daughter drives has a coolant leak that I need to track down, the transfer case is leaking and I can't get the fill port open, among a variety of other little things)

The early 2nd gen Taco's had rear drums - why I am not sure, but they are terrible for constant off road use. Hard to keep clean and they wear out very quick. But brakes seem to have been an issue as we bleed them frequently and have swapped out masters on both Tacos I believe. Very similar to the Hilux in layout though, but I like the Hilux a little better - slightly more upright and smaller. Your generation Taco is closer to the size and also my favorite gen Taco. Nice looking trucks. They have gotten too big. Not a fan of the "push button' 4wd, but the trucks have been very reliable over the years.
 

brian4d

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The early 2nd gen Taco's had rear drums - why I am not sure, but they are terrible for constant off road use. Hard to keep clean and they wear out very quick. But brakes seem to have been an issue as we bleed them frequently and have swapped out masters on both Tacos I believe. Very similar to the Hilux in layout though, but I like the Hilux a little better - slightly more upright and smaller. Your generation Taco is closer to the size and also my favorite gen Taco. Nice looking trucks. They have gotten too big. Not a fan of the "push button' 4wd, but the trucks have been very reliable over the years.

My 3rd gen has rear drums as well. I'd agree they are not ideal for off road conditions but disc brakes suck in the water/mud so it's a give take. I'm on the original and the rear drum brakes are sitting at 147,800 to be exact. If (and that's a big if) Toyota doesn't build them as good as they used to it's because they realized they were losing money because many would never trade in for new.

For everyone else, if this seems like it's turned into a Toyota Circle Jerk you would be correct. They are that good.
 

SGaynor

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My 3rd gen has rear drums as well. I'd agree they are not ideal for off road conditions but disc brakes suck in the water/mud so it's a give take. I'm on the original and the rear drum brakes are sitting at 147,800 to be exact. If (and that's a big if) Toyota doesn't build them as good as they used to it's because they realized they were losing money because many would never trade in for new.

For everyone else, if this seems like it's turned into a Toyota Circle Jerk you would be correct. They are that good.

The parking brake does nothing (even after "adjusting" the cable), so I'm thinking it's time (at 158k mi)

They have gotten too big. Not a fan of the "push button' 4wd, but the trucks have been very reliable over the years.

Agreed on the size. the 3rd gen are too big.

Push button 4WD, but factory e-locker. :victory:
 

brian4d

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The parking brake does nothing (even after "adjusting" the cable), so I'm thinking it's time (at 158k mi)



Agreed on the size. the 3rd gen are too big.

Push button 4WD, but factory e-locker. :victory:

How did you adjust the cable? I have read the best way is in the drums themselves, any other way doesn't do it. If you're not hearing crazy noises coming from the drums you may be good to go.
 

emmodg

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Push button 4wd is fine when taken care of... The servo that sits on the case gets inundated with mud and water which electrics don't like of course but it is easy to clean out.

Like I said - I miss my Rover and will have another soon I hope. There's just something about them... Not everybody and his high school brother has one and they just tend to look a little, dare I say "classier". I like my 'Yota a great deal. Parts are cheap and plentiful, they're certainly plentiful and they do hold a semblance of a re-sale value. There was a group of foreign "visitors" from our friends south of the border going around buying Tacomas like it was going out of style. They were taking them back across the border. I know of a couple of guys around here that made some good money providing "stock". (I just haven't heard of many older Rovers being bought in large numbers to go down south and get abused.) As the saying goes - Warlords worldwide choose Toyota.
 

mgreenspan

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Push button 4wd is fine when taken care of... The servo that sits on the case gets inundated with mud and water which electrics don't like of course but it is easy to clean out.

Like I said - I miss my Rover and will have another soon I hope. There's just something about them... Not everybody and his high school brother has one and they just tend to look a little, dare I say "classier". I like my 'Yota a great deal. Parts are cheap and plentiful, they're certainly plentiful and they do hold a semblance of a re-sale value. There was a group of foreign "visitors" from our friends south of the border going around buying Tacomas like it was going out of style. They were taking them back across the border. I know of a couple of guys around here that made some good money providing "stock". (I just haven't heard of many older Rovers being bought in large numbers to go down south and get abused.) As the saying goes - Warlords worldwide choose Toyota.

You can't make technicals out of Discos unless you want to get out your sawzall SCSL style!
 

kennith

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I bet Kenny knows.

"Kenny" is not a Google-minded homebody hick like "Danny".

Get off your ass one day, and you might actually get to see some of the stuff you read about. Your little "knowing" comments are entirely transparent, and you're not fooling anyone.

You may think you're a clever troll, Dan, but in the end you're just sucking my dick in front of anyone who will watch.

Keep it up and you'll choke on the finish.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

SGaynor

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Just remove the rear seats, open the rear sunroof...boom! Got you a technical. Perfect for killing your warlord opposition.

Or rhinos. Maybe even rogue shopping carts.