The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup

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I would agree that they're calling everything but to me its been that way all year. They say they're trying to make the game faster but it only slows it down. They are both really fast teams but for now I would have to say the Oilers are more physical. The Hurricanes would be more physical if Eric Cole was back.
 

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i prefer speed and some hitting.........like Stevenson style hitting. stepping up at the blue line and putting a hurt on some of those forwards.
Pronger needs to step up and do that. then again these guys are so damn fast that it makes it hard to do that.
 

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garrett said:
i prefer speed and some hitting.........like Stevenson style hitting. stepping up at the blue line and putting a hurt on some of those forwards.
Pronger needs to step up and do that. then again these guys are so damn fast that it makes it hard to do that.

Raffi Torres is one of those guys that will catch someone with their head down and rock them. Hasn't done it yet this series but he's laid out some big hits along the boards. Not sure if Pronger is one of those types of guys that do that though.
 
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Wow what a game! Both teams seemed to come out blazing. Fast skating, big hits and terrific play from Cam Ward & Jussi Markkanen. The big difference in the game to me was the play of the Hurricanes forwards.
 
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Stevenson or Stevens?

I have to admit the play in this series has been very entertaining and fairly even with perhaps the exception of game 2. They should make it best of 99 and play through the summer!

I think Brindy wins the Conn Smythe simply the best player out there although there are others that maybe worthy as well.
 

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yeh scott stevens. though i was not a fan of NJ, i did admire his physical ability. he was a force to be reckoned with on the ice.
few better hits last night and Carolina did look really fast out there. they both did, but Carolina was a step ahead.
 
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i could live with your stevens comment but being a Flyers fan I was hoping you weren't talking of Turner Stevenson as he is no force period - not that I have seen!

I still have visions of Lindros being laid out on the ice after Stevens line him up.
 

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i've been a Blues fan for some time and being a defenseman myself i was always a fan of Al MacInnis. you didn't see many guys dropping down in front of his shots. not only were they hard, but they were damn accurate. hard to be consistant with a slapshot like that.
he retired at 42 i believe. pretty impressive athlete.

i liked Messier too. a class act on and off the ice.
 
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i liked Messier too. a class act on and off the ice.[/QUOTE]

Off-ice I heard he was an a-hole but I guess that was in his younger days with EDM. Al Macinnes was and is a classy guy at least he was here in Calgary. When it comes to class, now one beats Grets or sakic

Lindros is still a pretty good player and I was hoping he would turn it around in TO but that injury buggered up those plans. He still needds to keep his head up too!
 

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Gah. Special teams have been the Oilers' undoing. Production from their PP has been depressing, while Carolina's man-advantage has been successful enough to make a difference. Not to mention the Oilers giving up too many PPs to a dangerous Canes team. Here's hoping Oilers can at least force a Game 6.

Early on this season, I was frustrated by the lack of flow to the game because of soooo many penalties. It was a learning experience for players who needed to make major adjustments in their game to avoid infractions. Well, by now the players who were talented enough to make adjustments should know better and those that couldn't adjust their game should be playing golf. Still, in the heat of the game many players would rather take a stupid penalty then give up an easy play. The important thing is consistency, and the refs have been pretty consistent thus far.

Players can and still do make big hits. Pronger never has been known to make the big hits, but rather he is just punishing to play against. Nevermind his 747 wingspan, he can take the body as well as anyone and will make you pay in the corners. I've always been a big fan of "Chopper". He is prototypical "old-skool", even staying with a wooden stick. One of my all-time faves was Ray Bourque: tough as hell, never backed down from the physical battles, could man the point on the PP, and was never dirty. He was a class act.

And yeah, look up "Captain" in the hockey dictionary and you will see two pictures, Steve Yzerman and Mark Messier.
 

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Ray used a wood stick and what just about everyone did in the 80s and 90s had as well. Sherwood PMP featherlite. comprised of 99% ash. least that is what he did play with as the sticks had his name on them. only stick i have used in the past 10+ years.
you can't use aluminum sticks in the NHL right? just wood or fiberglass composites right?
 
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And yeah, look up "Captain" in the hockey dictionary and you will see two pictures, Steve Yzerman and Mark Messier.[/QUOTE]

I am not and will never question Messier gritty style and for most of his carreer his ability to lead his team but my question is WTF happened during his 2 years in Vancouver?

I also living in the past when I see Big #66 undress bourque and move in on Moog during the playoffs in either 91 or 92.
 

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You can use wood, aluminum, or composite. I know one of the most interesting developments in recent years was the Easton Synergy. It was a one-piece composite stick that is lighter than hell and guys claimed to add ridiculous amounts of MPH to their slap shots. Problem is they were also fragile as porcelain and many of them would break at the worst possible time. I played around with one in a store once, it felt like you were carrying a stiff fishing rod.

Don't know exactly what happened to Mess in Vancouver, but new teams, new environments, and new roles certainly play a factor.

I don't know how you could knock Ray Bourque for getting beat by Super Mario. Lemieux could undress a caesar salad.
 

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ID_Disco_II said:
You can use wood, aluminum, or composite. I know one of the most interesting developments in recent years was the Easton Synergy. It was a one-piece composite stick that is lighter than hell and guys claimed to add ridiculous amounts of MPH to their slap shots. Problem is they were also fragile as porcelain and many of them would break at the worst possible time. I played around with one in a store once, it felt like you were carrying a stiff fishing rod.

Don't know exactly what happened to Mess in Vancouver, but new teams, new environments, and new roles certainly play a factor.

I don't know how you could knock Ray Bourque for getting beat by Super Mario. Lemieux could undress a caesar salad.

when i was a kid in the early 80s everyone was using Titans. they were super flexy and were great for forwards and wrist/snap shots. but too much flex for shots from the point in my opinion.
i had an Easton i bought back in 1988 and still have it. just a little short, so stopped using it. alot different than the new stuff i know.
the Sherwoods were nice a nice combo.......not too stiff and not too flexy, but the heal of the blades wear out a bit early.
i am sure i could not afford one of those sticks anyhow.......i usually pay under $25 for a stick. then again i am just a a chump playing in adult leagues now. haha.
pretty amazing to the see the energy involved in a hard slapshot. there is a lot of flex going on regardless of the stick.
 
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I don't know how you could knock Ray Bourque for getting beat by Super Mario. Lemieux could undress a caesar salad.

Not knocking the guy at all...how could anyone really argue that he was amongst the best to ever play D....but when I hear or in this case think of RB, I just think of that play! Just like when i think of Cam Neely I think of Ulf Samualson