Well since you put it that way, I won't "rag" on anyone for being optimistic. I like that quality. In Bellingham WA there was a 2000 DII in very good condition with a brand new 200tdi from Tuner. He couldn't sell it for 14k. I thought that was a good deal. It would be nice if the values would at least keep up with the money we put into them to keep them on/ off the road.