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There is still good shit going on.
There is still good shit going on.
there's still good news
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But unfortunatly the public at large doesnt care about "good" so it doesnt get the billing that the "bad" does from the MSM.....
apparently, gunny, good news aint shit here either. it appears as though our peers would rather argue about negative shit versus progress the positive. maybe this forum is yet another microcosm of our society as a whole??????
its easier to argue who's right or wrong in an argument where no one is right versus agreeing to disagree?
ego and power is the root of all that is evil and newsworthy these days and it is very upsetting. find something positive and dedicate 1/10th that energy that you do on the drudge report finding some new crazy government conspiracy and bringing us all down. yes shit is awful these days , but to consume your life with it is crazy and non productive. there is beautiful shit all around us every day almost every other minute.....but we would rather focus on the negative.
For whatever reason there is a large portion of people that enjoy seeing others fail. This board is no different. It's got its fair share of dbags that enjoy watching others fail. Better yet.....high lighting it.
How do you debate good news? Good news is not really all that exciting, honestly. We expect people to be good, so when something is expected is it really news?
William and Kate just had a healthy baby boy. That's good news. Is it news worth talking about? A married man and a woman had a child. Great. We can reasonably assume William is the proud daddy. It's not uncommon for a man and a woman to have a child, but it's good news, at least for someone. But what's there to talk about?
What if Kate's baby boy came out black? I'm not so sure that would be good news. But it would give us something to talk about.
What if a donor came forward and said that was his baby? That would give us something to talk about, too.
But just a plain ol married couple having a child, while good news, is not exciting news or really worth talking about.
I don't think people necessarily enjoy seeing others fail. Well, except in sports. Races would not be all that exciting for the spectator if there were no crashes. Football would not be all that exciting if both teams won. People may like seeing the bad guy fail, like a bank robber or pedophile. But how often do you see a news story about the person(s) who catch the bank robber or the pedophile? The person(s) who caught the criminals did a good deed, but who wants to know more about the good citizens? Sometimes I would not mind knowing who there were or how they caught the suspect, but I'm more interested in what's going to happen to the criminals. Are the criminals going to jail or are they going to get off of all charges? The criminal proceedings may keep the news story around a lot longer than the story about who caught the criminals. But the public, in general, wants to know justice has been served.
What can be said about someone who did good things? "Good job", "right on", [high fives], "thank you".... Unless you know the person who did something good personally, of if they're your family, it's really not all that exciting. It was expected.
Some folks may be braver than others. Some folks may jump into a burning car and pull a baby out, while others may just stand there and call 911. It makes for a good, heartfelt, story, that someone would have risked their own live to save another. It may even make them a hero in someones eyes. But what's there to discuss? We could highlight that it happened, but that does not mean it will turn into a 20-page thread on Dweb full of "good job" and "that's awesome".
The problem I see when something bad happens is the media memorializing it. We end up knowing more about the suspect in the crime than we know about the people it affects. It usually goes something like this:
-Sally was killed today by a bomb blast at the post office. She just had her 18th birthday. She was an honor roll student. Her friends can't believe this has happened.
vs.
-John Quentin Smith, III, 25, of 1223 Powers Lane, Richmond, VA, is suspected detonating a bomb at the Richmond post office today killing one. He was born in Jacksonville, FL, and he moved to the Richmond area after high school to attend MCV college where he studied Marketing. He had three siblings, Mike, age 9; Tom, age 12, and Lilly, age 18. His mother, Kris, was a raging alcoholic and his father, Dale, worked at the nearby grocery store. In 1995 John took a trip to Mexico and in 1998 he visited family at Myrtle Beach. He drove a red car. He had a girl friend. He had a job. He liked hanging out by the river and enjoyed fishing. Etc, etc etc.....
The media will memorialize a suspect in a crime. They let you know exactly who this person was, who their family was, and what their background may have been. The media give us this information as they obtain, and hopefully verify, it. That keeps the suspect in the news longer than what it really needs to be. But we'll end up knowing very little about the families the suspect has affected. Why? Because it's expected that those families will grieve. Naturally, we as human beings, comfort those who are grieving and at least try to respect their privacy to allow them to grieve.
There are five stages to grief -- denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.
Denial is when you see the victims of a crime gathering on the news. You'll see the parents at home or in the yard surrounded by family and friends. Candles are lit. Gifts are laid at the crime scene.
Anger is when the parents/families hold a press conference or protest.
Bargaining is when the parents/families tell everyone to go home, there is nothing you can do at this time, leave us alone, and allow the courts to do their thing.
Then you never see depression or acceptance in the news. You may see acceptance later on, perhaps on Dr. Phil or The View, but it's not going to make the 6 o'clock news.
Some folks get stuck in one stage of grief for a long time. In the Trayvon Martin case, those parents are still in the denial stage. Jesse and Al are not helping any. Although you'll never really get over a death, the depression stage typically lasts the longest. You think Jesse and Al will be there when Martin's family his the depression stage? Think it will still be news? We'll see...
So it's not that we get off on seeing others fail. We don't like seeing anyone die or get badly injured. But we do like seeing justice prevailing.
William and Kate just had a healthy baby boy. That's good news. Is it news worth talking about? A married man and a woman had a child. Great. We can reasonably assume William is the proud daddy. It's not uncommon for a man and a woman to have a child, but it's good news, at least for someone. But what's there to talk about?
What if Kate's baby boy came out black? I'm not so sure that would be good news. But it would give us something to talk about.
What if a donor came forward and said that was his baby? That would give us something to talk about, too.
But just a plain ol married couple having a child, while good news, is not exciting news or really worth talking about.
I don't think people necessarily enjoy seeing others fail. Well, except in sports. Races would not be all that exciting for the spectator if there were no crashes. Football would not be all that exciting if both teams won. People may like seeing the bad guy fail, like a bank robber or pedophile. But how often do you see a news story about the person(s) who catch the bank robber or the pedophile? The person(s) who caught the criminals did a good deed, but who wants to know more about the good citizens? Sometimes I would not mind knowing who there were or how they caught the suspect, but I'm more interested in what's going to happen to the criminals. Are the criminals going to jail or are they going to get off of all charges? The criminal proceedings may keep the news story around a lot longer than the story about who caught the criminals. But the public, in general, wants to know justice has been served.
What can be said about someone who did good things? "Good job", "right on", [high fives], "thank you".... Unless you know the person who did something good personally, of if they're your family, it's really not all that exciting. It was expected.
Some folks may be braver than others. Some folks may jump into a burning car and pull a baby out, while others may just stand there and call 911. It makes for a good, heartfelt, story, that someone would have risked their own live to save another. It may even make them a hero in someones eyes. But what's there to discuss? We could highlight that it happened, but that does not mean it will turn into a 20-page thread on Dweb full of "good job" and "that's awesome".
The problem I see when something bad happens is the media memorializing it. We end up knowing more about the suspect in the crime than we know about the people it affects. It usually goes something like this:
-Sally was killed today by a bomb blast at the post office. She just had her 18th birthday. She was an honor roll student. Her friends can't believe this has happened.
vs.
-John Quentin Smith, III, 25, of 1223 Powers Lane, Richmond, VA, is suspected detonating a bomb at the Richmond post office today killing one. He was born in Jacksonville, FL, and he moved to the Richmond area after high school to attend MCV college where he studied Marketing. He had three siblings, Mike, age 9; Tom, age 12, and Lilly, age 18. His mother, Kris, was a raging alcoholic and his father, Dale, worked at the nearby grocery store. In 1995 John took a trip to Mexico and in 1998 he visited family at Myrtle Beach. He drove a red car. He had a girl friend. He had a job. He liked hanging out by the river and enjoyed fishing. Etc, etc etc.....
The media will memorialize a suspect in a crime. They let you know exactly who this person was, who their family was, and what their background may have been. The media give us this information as they obtain, and hopefully verify, it. That keeps the suspect in the news longer than what it really needs to be. But we'll end up knowing very little about the families the suspect has affected. Why? Because it's expected that those families will grieve. Naturally, we as human beings, comfort those who are grieving and at least try to respect their privacy to allow them to grieve.
There are five stages to grief -- denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.
Denial is when you see the victims of a crime gathering on the news. You'll see the parents at home or in the yard surrounded by family and friends. Candles are lit. Gifts are laid at the crime scene.
Anger is when the parents/families hold a press conference or protest.
Bargaining is when the parents/families tell everyone to go home, there is nothing you can do at this time, leave us alone, and allow the courts to do their thing.
Then you never see depression or acceptance in the news. You may see acceptance later on, perhaps on Dr. Phil or The View, but it's not going to make the 6 o'clock news.
Some folks get stuck in one stage of grief for a long time. In the Trayvon Martin case, those parents are still in the denial stage. Jesse and Al are not helping any. Although you'll never really get over a death, the depression stage typically lasts the longest. You think Jesse and Al will be there when Martin's family his the depression stage? Think it will still be news? We'll see...
So it's not that we get off on seeing others fail. We don't like seeing anyone die or get badly injured. But we do like seeing justice prevailing.