Thoughts on the LR2...

XtremeMarine

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I just returned from my dealer. They have a new LR2 on the showroom floor, demo only; and ten for sale being delivered on April 1st. The truck is beautiful in person, and looks like a smaller version of the RRS when side by side on the floor. 32,895 base, SE model. No other models offered. And only three option packages. Cold Climate Package, Technology package, and Lighting package. Lighting and CCP together only brings the price to 36,450. The technology package, at 3,500 is the killer for this vehicle. Compared to the Freelander it replaces, it might as well not be in the same discussion. This is the entry level Rover that should have been built for North America originally. Shoulder room and hip room is cavernous for the overall size of the truck. Legroom in the rear is better than my DII, and blows the Di and the Freelander away. Will probably have one on lease by the end of the year. As long as the domestic boss doesn't veto me, lol.
 
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gil stevens

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base is $33,985 + $715 destination..

it drives well, for what it is.. its certainly light years ahead of the freelander.
 

XtremeMarine

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Whoops, I did a typo on the price. But that makes more sense since with the options I want, they quoted me 36,450, plus a discount for being a previous customer.

My favorite part is that it has coils; so once they're out a few years, maybe we'll see some fun off-road options...
 
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AndrewClarke

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I think they're great, but what pisses me off is that I can't get a diesel, and I can't get a manual. I told my dealer here that if they could give me one in a manual diesel (which of course they can't) that I would almost certainly buy one.

At the Toronto Auto Show they said the same thing. That we Canadians get what the American market gets because we're not a big enough market on our own. I know that, but it still sucks to hear it. It especially burns as the base price here is C$45k, which is about US$38,500. So if we have to get what the US market gets, where does our US$4500 price premium come from? (*^&#*(&^%*&#

Anyway, there's a small chance I'll still buy one, but without a manual transmission I just don't see it happening. I can buy a 250hp Subaru Legacy GT for that price, with a manual, satnav, etc. Totally tricked out. More fun to drive, and more economical. I already have a truck.

Don't get me wrong, I think the LR2 is a great vehicle. But then again, so is the Acura RDX, the BMW X3, and a number of other vehicles in the small premium SUV market. Land Rover is once again giving us no reason to buy their vehicle over the competition. 90% of these vehicles in the UK will be sold with a manual and a diesel. You'd think that would tell LRNA something but apparently it doesn't. The vehicle's already available overseas, so why won't Land Rover offer something DIFFERENT than the competition? Argh. BMW sells an X3 with a 5spd ... I'd likely pay the difference and get that over the LR2 even though I'd rather own and drive an LR2.

What pisses me off here is that this is just another example of Land Rover actively shunning its heritage. Toyota has great ads that show that they've been making trucks a long time. They're great ads that make me go "yeah, Toyota's cool. I want one". Land Rover could do better ones that that, if they hadn't trashed their history here in this country. When the "bling factor" dies on these Land Rovers, which they will when some other company makes a better vehicle, there won't be any reason for 90% of the people out there to buy a Land Rover.

That's the problem with the LR2. Land Rover won't do anything to capitalize on its heritage, and when the dust settles it's just another good option amongst many. OK I'm done my rant.

- Andrew.
 
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gil stevens

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good rant.. and fwiw.. i dont think LR2 is built to accept a manual transmission anywhere. I believe the transverse layout of the inline 6 prevents the option of a 5 speed.
 
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AndrewClarke

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gil stevens said:
good rant.. and fwiw.. i dont think LR2 is built to accept a manual transmission anywhere. I believe the transverse layout of the inline 6 prevents the option of a 5 speed.

According to http://www.landrover.co.uk/gb/en/Vehicles/Freelander2/Specifications/Freelander_performance.htm , you're right that the V6 isn't available with a manual. The TD4 is though, and that's the combination I'd want. It does 0-60 in 10.9 seconds (8.4 with the V6) and will do a combined 37.7mpg (Imperial) compared with 25.2 for the V6 auto. In US gallons, that's 31.4mpg for the diesel, 21 for the V6. Quite a difference and since I'm buying an SUV anyway and not a sports car, I'll take the economy over the speed. But I guess I'm in the minority here. I'd also be putting 200+ km/day on it, and fuel's slightly more expensive in Canada than it is in the US.

- Andrew.