Where to put the jerry cans?

[stu454]

If you have a rack then your lighter items can go up there. Center of gravity wouldn't be affected as much as it would with six jerry cans. In the desert you'd likely want some form of container to keep the dust out, especially if the light items are your clothes and sleeping gear.

Without a rack then the competing interests of six jerry cans and the rest of your gear will require you to evaluate what has to go and what can be left home.

 

[stolenheron]

In the desert you'd likely want some form of container to keep the dust out, especially if the light items are your clothes and sleeping gear.

pelican cases or a dry bag.

 

[p m]

i am also not to fussed about having them in the car. where do you store 6 jerrys - all in the boot? But where is the rest of your equipment then?

I have a few vehicles to spread 6 cans around.

But, for a long trip where you anticipate having to have many gas cans to go along, you may need to leave some of the nicer stuff at home.

 

[burn_e]

Would fixing a jerry can holder at the place where the number plate sits cause an issue with the hinges due to the extra weight?

 

[stu454]

The hinges would wear a good bit faster.

 

[J. Toronado]

i saw an expedition land cruiser in the desert last week that had a 20 liter tank in the rear of the vehicle about 4 feet long by 4 ft wide and maybe 10 inches high built to fit snugly in the bed. they then would pile up their gear, sleeping mattress etc on top of it and be good to go. maybe you could get someone there to weld you a 10 or 15 liter reservoir to fit the rear space of your truck.

 

[Tugela]

If you need extra fuel on enough occasions you might consider installing an auxiliary fuel tank under the vehicle. This is an aftermarket option that places in the UK will install (Nene Overland, for example). I had an auxiliary fuel tank on the Series 3 109" I took across the Kalahari and it was definitely needed. Mileage in 4wd in sand with an expedition laden vehicle was as bad as you might expect and there was no guarantee that the next town would have fuel.

I'm not sure how easy aux fuel tanks are to install if you are considering doing it yourself. The added cost and complexity are probably only justified if you plan on getting enough use out of the feature. The utility and elegance of the solution, however, has none of the drawbacks of the options suggested so far (roof, inside, bumper, rear door).

 

[p m]

i saw an expedition land cruiser in the desert last week that had a 20 liter tank in the rear of the vehicle about 4 feet long by 4 ft wide and maybe 10 inches high built to fit snugly in the bed. they then would pile up their gear, sleeping mattress etc on top of it and be good to go. maybe you could get someone there to weld you a 10 or 15 liter reservoir to fit the rear space of your truck.

JTo, FYI - 4 ft x 4 ft x 10" = 360 liters, give or take.

Also, as shipbuilders know, the equivalent increase of c.g. is proportional to unconstrained open water (fuel) surface. This tank would be just as awful on the roof as in the cabin
For the same reason, a jerry can standing upright is always better than laying flat.

 

[burn_e]

JTo, FYI - 4 ft x 4 ft x 10" = 360 liters, give or take.

Also, as shipbuilders know, the equivalent increase of c.g. is proportional to unconstrained open water (fuel) surface. This tank would be just as awful on the roof as in the cabin
For the same reason, a jerry can standing upright is always better than laying flat.

something J. Toronado descripts I have seen here for landcruiser. This was to carry water.
this was just 1/4 filled and I could feel the water swoshing left and right in the boot.
Dividers in the tank might reduce the trouble.

 

[Tugela]

Here is an idea for you: rear arch mounted tank.

http://www.safari-equip.co.uk/index.php?page=143

The flow through design looks nice and simple, it connects to the existing tank. No need for separate fuel pump, etc.

 

[p m]

Dividers in the tank might reduce the trouble.

The dividers will reduce dynamic sloshing, but they will do nothing about the c.g.

 

[burn_e]

The dividers will reduce dynamic sloshing, but they will do nothing about the c.g.

so true...image driving along on a slope and 180 ltr on petrol slowly shift from left to right.

 

[LuisC]

...image driving along on a slope and 180 ltr on petrol slowly shift from left to right.

Image driving a long haul truck pulling an unbaffled tanker with 9000 gallons of motor fuel. No image accelerating from a stop and shifting through the gears as the liquid sloshes backward and forward.
I can only image because I have never driven one but I have a few friends that drive cross country and have heard about it.

 

[stevenmd]

Get some good jerry cans and mount them inside the cabin on the floor behind the front seats. If you are worried about fumes, wrap them in a few plastic garbage bags with duct tape and put up one of those tree air fresheners on your rear view mirror.

 

[LuisC]

Get some good jerry cans and mount them inside the cabin on the floor behind the front seats. If you are worried about fumes, wrap them in a few plastic garbage bags with duct tape and put up one of those tree air fresheners on your rear view mirror.

LOL!
Of course you could also put the plastic bag over your head, seal it with duct tape around the neck to keep the fumes out. Oh and don't forget to put the air freshener in the bag just under your nose.:smilelol:

 

[p m]

Image driving a long haul truck pulling an unbaffled tanker with 9000 gallons of motor fuel. No image accelerating from a stop and shifting through the gears as the liquid sloshes backward and forward.
I can only image because I have never driven one but I have a few friends that drive cross country and have heard about it.

Luis, I don't think there are unbaffled tankers - at least, they should have never been made in the first place. Baffles not only reduce liquid sloshing, they also stiffen up the tank itself.
Also, consider this: the cylindrical or elliptical cross-section of fuel tankers significantly reduces the free liquid surface area when the tank is full.
I don't know how the tankers are actually built, but - if I were to build one, I would've made it into a number of unconnected sections and instead of emptying the entire tanker, I'd do it by a section.

 

[LuisC]

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/broch/cdl/cdl10sec08.pdf

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/cdl_htm/sec8.htm

Two different links describing baffled and unbaffled (smooth bore) tankers.

 

[stevenmd]

LOL!
Of course you could also put the plastic bag over your head, seal it with duct tape around the neck to keep the fumes out. Oh and don't forget to put the air freshener in the bag just under your nose.:smilelol:

Um, yeah, silly me, I guess we should ignore the advice of the many people, including Tom Shepherd, who have more experience than us. But then again, maybe you have the one Land Rover in the world that is air tight.:ack:

 

[roverMc]

I smoke in my truck..no gas in the passenger cabin..

x2 And if you have ever been on fire, it's no fun.atriot: