I wish Kyle were around, he would sure have spiced up this matter.
Jack, a 79 Wagoneer has as much of wheel travel or more than a stock RRC or D1. You know that I had a 79 widetrack Cherokee - I used 8" travel 5150 shocks with stock springs.
Yes, the Wagoneer had 1/2-ton GM brakes - disk front and drum rear. However, properly maintained, they would lock up 35" tires. Not sure a RRC brakes could ever do that before the full hydraulic setup.
Full time 4WD - Wagoneers had full-time 4WD since 73. Between 73 and 79 it was a Borg-Warner Quadratrac setup - with a _lockable_ limited slip center diff. Whoever says it's a POS either had a bad experience with one due to lack of maintenance, or doesn't know what that was. To that I have to add that the big jeeps had better weight distribution - more like 55f/45r - so they did really well.
Limited slip was a factory option on Wagoneers since ~1967.
Aluminum motor and body are of questionnable value - the only reason Rover had the 215 Buick was GM having learned the art of thin-walled iron castings. For whatever it's worh, I've driven my Cherokee with half the coolant and way into the red zone for a long time; I've also driven it with near-zero oil pressure for a month. And nothing happened to the engine. Try that in a Range Rover. If you tell me it doesn't matter if your vehicle is properly maintained - fine, but sometimes you might come across a twig or a rock that can do some damage to oil and cooling system before you see it.
Land Rover's aluminum bodies, so-much-praised for resistance to corrosion, were the result of post-war surplus of aluminum, and probably the cause of accelerated corrosion of steel parts in contact with them.
I don't know of a luxury feature of a 95 RRC that a 91 Grand Wagoneer did not have, with the exception of a CD changer.
A Wagoneer is a fucking relic. But, day after day after day, I find my 68 to be a more comfortable ride than my 96 D1, and, surprizingly, with its superior visibility and sharper turning radius (even with RRC axles!), an easier vehicle to manoever in tight parking lots than my 95 LWB.
Jack, a 79 Wagoneer has as much of wheel travel or more than a stock RRC or D1. You know that I had a 79 widetrack Cherokee - I used 8" travel 5150 shocks with stock springs.
Yes, the Wagoneer had 1/2-ton GM brakes - disk front and drum rear. However, properly maintained, they would lock up 35" tires. Not sure a RRC brakes could ever do that before the full hydraulic setup.
Full time 4WD - Wagoneers had full-time 4WD since 73. Between 73 and 79 it was a Borg-Warner Quadratrac setup - with a _lockable_ limited slip center diff. Whoever says it's a POS either had a bad experience with one due to lack of maintenance, or doesn't know what that was. To that I have to add that the big jeeps had better weight distribution - more like 55f/45r - so they did really well.
Limited slip was a factory option on Wagoneers since ~1967.
Aluminum motor and body are of questionnable value - the only reason Rover had the 215 Buick was GM having learned the art of thin-walled iron castings. For whatever it's worh, I've driven my Cherokee with half the coolant and way into the red zone for a long time; I've also driven it with near-zero oil pressure for a month. And nothing happened to the engine. Try that in a Range Rover. If you tell me it doesn't matter if your vehicle is properly maintained - fine, but sometimes you might come across a twig or a rock that can do some damage to oil and cooling system before you see it.
Land Rover's aluminum bodies, so-much-praised for resistance to corrosion, were the result of post-war surplus of aluminum, and probably the cause of accelerated corrosion of steel parts in contact with them.
I don't know of a luxury feature of a 95 RRC that a 91 Grand Wagoneer did not have, with the exception of a CD changer.
A Wagoneer is a fucking relic. But, day after day after day, I find my 68 to be a more comfortable ride than my 96 D1, and, surprizingly, with its superior visibility and sharper turning radius (even with RRC axles!), an easier vehicle to manoever in tight parking lots than my 95 LWB.
