Could it also possibly be that both publications have at least one conservative editorial author? Wow, some consensus.
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MarkP said:
Mark
What Australian papers/articles are you referring to?
However, rather than doing your usual cut and paste, give a small background of the writer and the source of the article (i.e. whether it is a News Limited paper or not?fair bet it will be) This is something that quality Australian mainstream papers do as a matter of course.
Citing these articles to a foreign audience without giving this background is ethically dishonest. I can find articles from various Australian publications to ?prove? anything I want about the USA.
The general perspective of Obama in Australia is not what you are implying. If anything, the general consensus is that Obama is doing the best he can given the entrenched nature of your country (why don't you cite a few articles of what Australians believe about the American Right from a non News Limited paper?).
If you?re citing any opinion piece by Andrew Bolt from the Herald Sun you have just lost your entire argument
Food for thought ....
Wikileaks have been ongoing for many months.
The Obama administration did nothing except make weak statements. Virtually nothing happened until ......
Wikileaks threatened the big banks.
NOW it is a national security issue.
NOW Holder threatens Assange
NOW there is an international arrest warrant.
Do you really need any more evidence that Obama is bought and paid for?
Wikileaks have been ongoing for many months.
The Obama administration did nothing except make weak statements. Virtually nothing happened until ......
Wikileaks threatened the big banks.
NOW it is a national security issue.
NOW Holder threatens Assange
NOW there is an international arrest warrant.
Do you really need any more evidence that Obama is bought and paid for?
It feels like the corrupt international banking cartel is standing at the edge of a cliff, needing only slight nudge to go reeling over the edge.
Is Wikileaks that nudge, similar to CRU-gate?
If not Wikileaks, will it be one of the other 3 million that have the same information?
Is Wikileaks that nudge, similar to CRU-gate?
If not Wikileaks, will it be one of the other 3 million that have the same information?
The most interesting item I heard so far was the success in discouraging the Russians from selling the Iranians missile technology, which would make any preemptive air strike to knock out the Iranian nuclear programme much more difficult. There was a concern that Israelis would strike before the missile system was up and running. Although not directly acknowledged at the same time as the Russians agreeing not to supply a missile based air defense system the Israelis agreed to provide the Russians with unmanned surveillance drones.
Several major news organizations have been sifting through this stuff for months now, and in general The State Department has actually impressed certain news pundits.
The Russians are pissed off because the Spanish judge specializing in organized crime said it was no longer possible to tell the difference between Russian Corporate Business, the Russian Government and the Russian Mafia / organized crime.
Several major news organizations have been sifting through this stuff for months now, and in general The State Department has actually impressed certain news pundits.
The Russians are pissed off because the Spanish judge specializing in organized crime said it was no longer possible to tell the difference between Russian Corporate Business, the Russian Government and the Russian Mafia / organized crime.
I don't really see the compromise in security. At first they made it sound as if the lunch codes were on the net. It just appears to be cables and thats it. Hardly a security threat. But of course bring business into it and it becomes a issue.
msggunny said:
A TS is where the money is at.
Feel free to call me with your cool stories. I wont tell
Apparently schmucko is wanted for rape...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/01/police-seek-julian-assange-rape-claims
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/01/police-seek-julian-assange-rape-claims
p m said:
X2 ( sort of )
No one in Israel will think for a minute to Say something in a way that could jeopardize Israel.
knewsom said:
So what is the real story? Two women fighting over Assange and filling false charges? Couldn't be. Who would manufacture charges like that!
Actually this has been in the news for many many months and dropped. Now after threatening the banks it is back? :rofl: Figure it out yet?
So when is Wikileaks going to publish Obama's birth, school, college, and other personal records? THAT would actually get my attention.
People do realize that Assange is not the leaker, right? He is only releasing information leaked to his team. A team that has distributed encrypted insurance files around the world, accessible with a simple text message.
In reality Obama himself could be the leaker.
In reality Obama himself could be the leaker.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11923766
Ah great... "Dear Terrorists, please attack us here"
Ah great... "Dear Terrorists, please attack us here"
Given the number of people who had access to the information it appears the administration didn't think it was very sensitive, at least initially.
Some of the stuff is simple common sense or expected banter. The Obama administration really didn't invest much effort until very recently, until it became political. Why? Is it because Wikileaks is now calling for Obama and Clinton to resign and backing it up with embarrassing data? With or without the data they are toast, from a political power perspective. Is it the threat to the big-banks who finance them?
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So is it just one leaker? Or many? Feels like the administration doesn't know who it is ......
WikiLeaks and U.S. Computer Security: The ‘Second Spy’ Theory
Some of the stuff is simple common sense or expected banter. The Obama administration really didn't invest much effort until very recently, until it became political. Why? Is it because Wikileaks is now calling for Obama and Clinton to resign and backing it up with embarrassing data? With or without the data they are toast, from a political power perspective. Is it the threat to the big-banks who finance them?
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So is it just one leaker? Or many? Feels like the administration doesn't know who it is ......
WikiLeaks and U.S. Computer Security: The ‘Second Spy’ Theory
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I'm wondering if Hillary leaked them as an act of revenge? What better way to get to run for POTUS in 2012 than by making Obama look like a bigger dumbass than anyone thought possible?