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Eric N.

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Roverchic - con carry permit here in N.VA is 50 bucks.. You have to take a gun safety class though and that can run you anywhere from 50-150 dollars..

It's funny though that Ron mentioned the "check the building for signs".. You know that all the places I go around here only one place has a sign on it saying no firearms allowed and that is Galyans Sporting goods store in Reston aside from the Court Houses and schools ( even the schools you can carry it unloaded.. Though every private place has the right to ask you to leave.

You can however, walk around all you want with your gun in plain view.. You'll get harassed I'm sure but, legally your OK. I have done this a few times when I go to the gun range and you would not believe the looks that you get from people.. Needless to say every one is in a hurry to get out of your way..


As for Freddie's question about why I voted for Bush... I posted this link before and I'll post it again.. http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/a_three_sections_with_teasers/votes.htm

Look at the section called "Roll Call Tables" it has the all the votes on bills since 1989 and if you dig around in them ( ya it's not easy and kinda confusing ) you can find out info on all the bills and their riders.. You can also see how each Senator voted on it.. Looking at Kerry's voting record and listening to what he has been telling people for the last ten years especially during his campaign I have found him to be nothing but a liar telling people what he thinks they want to hear. I will say that he is one hell of a great speaker and word smith.. He has some of the best speech writers I have ever heard.. So I can see how it is easy for him to dupe people into believing him.. However, I have been indirectly involved in politics here due to my wife's job so I'm used to the way these folks work and I'm automatically suspicious when I start to hear things that just don't sound right to me so I go and look them up.

There are a few other things as well that I didn't like...

Gay Marriages... I'm just not down with that.. I don't think that it's OK..

Abortion.... Ya, there's a few reasons that I can see having one.. Rapes, Health risks, and such... But, I don't think that it's right to have one just cause some girl got drunk or sweet talked into spreading her legs open.

Jobs... Well lets face it not all of these jobs were lost cause of things that Bush did.. They were on their way out regardless of who was in office... Dot Com and the Telecom companies tossed hundreds of thousands of people on the streets in the last few years which made up a large portion of the unemployed numbers.. At least where I live.. I was one of them.. That bubble was bursting one way or the other.. No matter what people say the economy is getting better.. That is some thing that Bush did help in doing.

I'm not a church goer and I don't even believe in god, but, I do see a lack of morals and values in this country and it just keeps getting worse.. Things have gotten too out in the open and too liberal.. Take TV for instance.. I have an 19 month old daughter and I can only really watch 3 TV stations out of the 300 that I have.. Nogg, Disney, and Food Network and even Nogg and Disney only during the day.. Every thing else is filled with violence, drugs, sex, and a whole list of other things that my little girl is just too young for.. It's not just TV though.. It's every where. It's pretty sad when we are out front playing in the yard and some of the 4-5 year olds that live in this neighborhood come up and want to play with her and they are cursing left and right.. Even more then me when I get pissed off.. Even worse is that these kids parents aren't even around.. 4-5 year olds running around all day with no one even watching them.. No wonder we have such a high crime rate and such low education scores.. And I live in a county (Fairfax) that is considered to have one of the highest number of educated kids according to the test scores. I have gone up to a couple of them and asked them why their kids are running around the neighborhood with no one watching them... You know what their answer was? Don't tell me how to raise my kids... To which I reply if you were raising you kids I wouldn't be over here. When I heard what Bill Cosby said to folks I almost fell out of my chair... Finally someone in the public eye said some thing that people really needed to hear..

I think that this country in some respect needs to go back in time a little.... Can bush fix the worlds issues, no, I know he can't.. Can he make the US and some of the world a little better.. Sure he can.. But, he needs help.. I'm not just talking about the House and Senate either.. I'm talking about you, me, your kids, your neighbors.. We all are in it weather you like it or not..

I see things in this country and I just don't get it.. I really don't..

Anyway.. I have many other reasons as to why I feel the way that I do but, I'm not going to post some 30 page long book about it..

Though, I'm happy today because my wife still has her job.. Some thing I was worried about with this election. I'm also happy because I live in one of the best countries on this planet.. Ya it has it's issues just like all of them do.. But, it's home, and it's the only place I want to be..
 
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Blue

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don't forget to cross-check packing.org with your local law enforcement
 

MarkP

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Just to keep the polical scene interesting ....

ARAFAT DEAD!
hA'ARETZ | NOW
18:14Radio Monte Carlo: Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat died several minutes ago (Channel 2)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1270379/posts

My Palestinian friends will be happy about this. They viewed him as a corrupt terrorist. Let's see how the UN pukes try to spin this. They have much time and money wrapped up in him.
 

Bruno

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Now, I'd like to see what the same Europeans who call us warmongeres would propose as an alternative.

They don't propose anything.. they just sit back until the shit hits the fan, then they come begging and citing human rights etc..

They acuse Bush of being arrogant, defiant and self-serving because it suits them politicaly, just as soon as the tables turn they come calling for help. Kudos to Blair for sticking it out despite strong opposition.

Bruno.
 

Blue

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QCNR said:
Tony B.Liar as he is known locally, or el Presidente...

Does your husband smack you around because you whine so damn much?
 

RoverChic

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LOL Serg!! After all the phone calls on Saturday night I felt the need to pack some Heat!! ;)

Those were some wierd voice messages!!! :D
 

Ron

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RoverChic,

MAKE SURE RECIPROCITY STILL WORKS ONCE YOU BECOME A TEXAS CITIZEN!

For the extra money I would still get the Texas Permit unless I was 1000% percent sure reciprocity still worked. I mean concealed means concealed and I think Texas has a "good shoot" law where violations do not attach if the shooting was in self defense but take no chances.

I know that Delaware AG has said that once you move to Del. you have to get a delaware permit and reciprocity goes away.

Not sure if Texas has a similar ruling.

Ron
 

Andrew Homan

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Ron good to know. I didn't follow it much because I didn't have to worry about it and I never hassled anyone with a permit from anywhere unless they did something illegal. Sorry I missed it in your post it was a long day :)
 

RoverChic

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Thanks again Ron..I will check into that ASAP! Andy I went with HK because of the way it felt. I really liked it compared to the Glock. I got a 0.40 S&W P7. It was hard to locate but I am pleased nonetheless. H&H gun range was a huge help as well; they allowed me to test several options before I made the final decision. I also felt very comfortable with the P7. I am having a hard time finding magazines though. I have tried here for now: http://www.cdnninvestments.com/

Mel
 

Andrew Homan

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RoverChic, Always remember the best weapon you can have is the one you can shoot the straightest. Many people get caught up on large cal. handguns and can't hit shit with them. What good is that if you need to stop an attacker. I have shot Hk for years mostly their mp5 subgun. Its a great weapon. Magazines should be easier to get now that the ban is gone. spend the money an buy a good fitting holster and clean the barrel for copper fowling every 2k rounds or less.