Just got a levo-gauge...where to put it?

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Author Message   Jess Brandt (Disco285) Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 10:35 am:    i just purchased a levo-gage and wanted everyones thoughts on where to mount it...thanks, jess   mark Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 02:36 pm:    I stuck mine to the outside of the ashtray.   R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 05:28 pm:    Put mine on the empty garage door/sunroof control panel filler JUST ABOVE REAR VIEW MIRROR, looks good, good fit and easy to see above the mirror.   Joe Still (Joedisco) Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 08:06 pm:    Jess: Where and what model did you buy? I'd like to add a compass/inclinometer combo but don't know who has one. I think I've seen such a factory set up in a Mitsu.   ButchS Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:40 am:    I guess i havnt really decided where to put them. Theoretically, if its high, its a good indicator and shifts more angle than setting it lower close to the cog (center of gravity). Hey anyone know where the cog of a disco 1? I still have it in the box. ER   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 11:24 am:    Wow, I didn't realize people actually used those things. Interesting.....   R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 03:35 pm:    Why not use it? It really could save you from a roll-over. Now I know exactly when I have reached my own personal margin of safety - 30 degrees for off road. V-22... I assume you are a pilot, me too. The instruments are there for a reason. Besides, it looks really cool, and you can always point to the 30 degree spot and impress new passengers!   Will Roeder (Will_Roeder) Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 03:37 pm:    or 45 degree in my case Seriously though...i wouldnt really rely on these things. I dont really use mine...its generally the passengers just looking down and seeing what its at   R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 04:22 pm:    I don't deny that there is a LOT of "feel" when off roading. But, without the inclinometers, you cannot do anything but guess how far you are. How do you measure otherwise? The horizon? What if there is none, or what if it is also tilted? The movement of the car causes you or your passenger to be completely inaccurate when trying to guess the angle. How about at night? It is much easier to be fooled by your inner ear and your vison than you may realize. As a flight instructor, I have seen what happens when you don't rely on your instruments. And I have studied the physiology of balance, movement, and perception.   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 04:52 pm:    Okay, I am calling BULSHIT! Please spare me the inner ear and equilibrium vs relative motion crap. Flying in IFR / IMC conditons, or at night, or even nap of the Earth at 300 mph is completly different than crawling over an obstacle at 3 mph. We all know that JFK jr was a jackass when he flew his Saratoga into the drink killing himself and his passenger. I think you'll flip your vehicle over quicker watching the amazing Level guage then by just looking out the window. So tell me, does this Amazing product reconfigure itself for the amount of crap you have stacked on your rack, or wet / rocky conditions, or the pressure in your tires, (the list can go on)? No I didn't think so.........   RJ Clayton (Tozovr) Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 06:53 pm:    I think the gauge would be dandy...if you KNEW here the point of no return was....but you don't, so all ya can really say is, "wow, I'm at XX degrees, Jenkies..." There's, I guess, some neat-o factor there though...   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 06:53 pm:    i like the gauge. i get tilty and feel fucked up at 15 deg. i glance at the gage and chills my ass out. it's a tool that lets me feel comfortable and it needs to be used as reference. either you know what i am talking about or you dont, sort of like a fear of heights. rd   RJ Clayton (Tozovr) Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 06:56 pm:    I'm not afraid of heights...I'm afriad of Rapid Decelleration Syndrome...or concrete poisoning....   Dana G Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 07:20 pm:    Well, as another pilot/Disco driver I suppose I should throw my $.02 in as well. Although it is pretty easy to guestimate your angle, I don't think that having the gauge handy can hurt. If you get uncomfortable at 15, having the gauge can be a bit reassuring. Obviously you don't want to rely on the thing when it indicates 40 to reassure you that it's safe. And, you don't want to stare at it as you negotiate an obstacle or what Paul said certainly rings true, you'll do more damage than the gauge prevents. Same as flying VMC heads down....bad idea   Joe Still (Joedisco) Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 09:29 pm:    Airplane/Disco pilot myself. I like Rob's idea that it (inclinometer)provides some relative sense of danger (or lack thereof). Every pilot flys "visual" first, instrument second. Smart IFR pilots keep track of the instruments even VFR cause when you need em it's too late to start judging if they work. I want an inclinometer!   RJ Clayton (Tozovr) Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 09:45 pm:    at what angle should you start to worry?   Dana Giles (Dana_G) Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:09 pm:    Alright, how many of us on this board are pilots, and do we need an official 'pilot and Disco owner' board   Jess Brandt (Disco285) Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:44 pm:    sorry to start so much tension...quite frankly the levo-gauge is cheap...and whether you want it for looks or use...it can't hurt and is a good gift for a fellow off-roader..mostly because of its price...so in conclusion..thanks... but seriously!!! WHERE SHOULD I PUT IT?   Clif Ashley (Cta586) Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:52 pm:    I agree with that, I mean $10 accessory is hard to fawk up. Location: 1. Ashtray (mine is here) 2. Blank panel above rear view mirror   John Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 11:53 pm:    Kinda curious, i'm not a pilot but my old man is. (mom her foot down on that one real fast when i was younger) are you guys just private pilots or do you fly commercial? My dad flies for US Airways, just wondering if any of ya'll flew commercial jets as well.   R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 12:58 am:    Your right!! It is BS, but BS with a point! Just don't drive your Disco like you're in IFR, we would all be jumping out of the way. I say, for $10 I can save my $10,000 investment - but your right, it ain't IMC out their - Trust your instruments, but mostly, get out an walk the slope! Personally, I use mine when I go into a slope, that way I don't get in trouble while half way through. Why should I guess? V22 - are you working on the Osprey project?   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 05:48 am:    You guys are the only people on the planet who could make me laugh so early in the morning. Yes Mr. Bailey, I am one of those V-22 Project guys. Off to find some coffee.....   gp (Garrett) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 07:41 am:    but paul actually has a guage.......just not on his truck. kinda like a "at half mast" sorta deal. least that is what greg told me!! haha.   Greg P. (Gparrish) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 08:43 am:    No Garrett, it wasn't me that told ya, must a been Jen.   Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 08:45 am:    Hold it now, Mr. GP. Which Greg was that? It shooow wasn't me! And for the record, mine's in the blank panel above my rear view mirror. I figured the higher it was mounted, the more accurate it would be.   gp (Garrett) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 08:56 am:    not to worry mr. davis. all my lewd "greg" comments will always be directed at mr. parrish. i don't have enough 'info' on you yet. too damn far south man. haha. oh that's right greg p.....that level o gauge was mounted on evan's yellow boxers. one on the side and one on the back. kinda like how a re-fueling tanker works. oh man.   Greg P. (Gparrish) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 09:08 am:    Ever notice how Garrett's posts always come back to a gay reference. I just did a search on DWeb for the keyword "Gay" and in most threads Garrett is involved. For example: ../17/3285.html"#444444">   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 09:13 am:    Damn, We have gone from tense to ludicrous. What's next plaid?   gp (Garrett) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 09:37 am:    greg. i don't want to even mention the Yahoo survey. no really i won't. haha. as you once told me, "love knows no gender!" "free love and free willy." (and we are not refering to the movie here folks) sorry to degress once again.   Dana Giles (Dana_G) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 09:38 am:    John, Air Force pilot type here   Greg P. (Gparrish) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 10:03 am:    No, there is a boundary to love, and it's called Zak...................... And I believe it was the yellow boxer wearing guy that claims all that "love knows no gender" crap............... Here is a picture for your enjoyment, Garrett, I pulled this from your homepage........   Greg P. (Gparrish) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 10:05 am:      R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 11:05 am:    HEY, here is a good question. Like I said above, I put mine up above the mirror on the blank panel there. I just like it there. But here is the question: Does it make your measurement any different if you had it down below, say behind the CDL lever? - NO, Not when at a stop. But it is more likely to swing back and forth a little more showing you what the car is "feeling" so to speak, if you mount it up high. In this case, it is important to note what V22 said, when you have a roof rack and low tire pressure it will become more aggitated - which is better in a way, means you should lower your tolerance for high angles. And, it is interesting to watch the difference between a high mount and a low mount when going around a corner (on pavement) at 20-30 mph.   E Snyder Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 02:13 pm:    I know some people who have a two guage set up, for front to back angle, not just side to side. Mine is on the ash tray, and is 100% for passengers to look at. (and then tell me what they see) You'll kill yourself trying to read the damn thing. It does help remind you that 40 degrees or so is a heluva long way over. 30 will pucker you up. Any way you mount them they don't really record accurately when you are leaning to the side, but ALSO going up or down. Your lev-o-guage may say only 25 degrees, but you might be combining that with a 35 degree up or down slope! The 25 degrees doesn't really mean anything relative to what might make your truck roll at that point. My 2 cents worth of BS!   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 02:43 pm:    I think the gauge is a neat idea, but I question the accuracy of the ones you always see for sale for off-roaders. Besides the accuracy of the instrument itself, there is the accuracy of the mounting platform. Give me a legible dash readout from a precise instrument rigidly mounted to the frame - now that would be cool.   Mark Albrecht (Markalbrecht) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 03:09 pm:    The lev-o-gauges aren't really that useful (other than entertainment value) unless you know your vehicles roll over degree. Although, you would know that they can meet the degree of the test "track" at the LR Centre where they won't let you drive the truck. That being said, they do impress passengers (unless it's the significant other).   Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 03:59 pm:    Blue, ain't that funny that nobody ever asked about it? one of the most important numbers that people put in the spec sheets of inertial guidance stuff is angular mis-alignment of sensors. the good ones come down to an order of seconds. the "instruments are there for a reason" in a context of flight vs. off road driving cracked me up. R.B., do you know that even a kick-ass pilot can go into a steep bank without knowing it if he doesn't look at the instruments during the IFR flight? Now, how often does the IFR disco driving happen? peter   Larry Grubbs (Larryg) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 05:54 pm:    Level-o-guage..... AKA "Fun Meter". Put it where it is level. While the truck is in your garage. Enough said. Larry   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 06:10 pm:    "Fun Meter" Enough said.   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 08:28 pm:    If it falls off the dash I'm probably in trouble.