I have a buddy selling a 130. Let me know if you want me to connect you with him.If so, that's an expensive hobby.
One of these days I'll pick up a 130, but I'll be finding one overseas somewhere.
Cheers,
Kennith
I have a buddy selling a 130. Let me know if you want me to connect you with him.If so, that's an expensive hobby.
One of these days I'll pick up a 130, but I'll be finding one overseas somewhere.
Cheers,
Kennith
To me it's not just about loss of value. Look, if one's idea of off-road is a desert trail, or a gravel lane, then more power to you. But that's not me, and then it becomes why would you want to do that to such a beautiful truck.
I guess that highlights the difference in people's idea of what "off-road" is. Here, the way I wheel, two things are going to happen. One is inevitable. Trying to negotiate an obstacle I'm going to run tree limbs down the side of my rig. That's going to happen every time I go out. We are going to end up on a little used trail that will have overhanging limbs in the way. The other is that sooner or later I'm going to whack something. That's why the best trail rig I've owned was an old CJ. Mechanically I had been over every inch of it but to look at it you'd think "kinda a POS". But when I slid down a slick hill and couldn't make the turn at the bottom, thus hitting a tree, it was just something that needed dealt with and not "OMFG".
Very true yet there are also the 90s that are garage queens that might fetch more dollars. Another past Rover I never should have sold yet hindsight is always 20/20.I don't think that is detrimental to its value as it will always be a NAS D90.
I think it has more to do with driving style than anything. There are plenty of people who just can't accept that they are going to make it up a certain obstacle and are always bashing their trucks.
Now that the ROW gate is opened, I don't really understand NAS Defender purchases. It's the same car. What's the point?
The thing will do fine on trails either way. What happens with terrain response may be odd to us, but people have been enjoying those features on pickups and other SUVs since they aped Land Rover's technology. Electronic lockers are fine. I'd almost rather have one than an air locker, honestly.
If the vehicle will function without those systems, there's not really an issue; rather like a DII without traction control. It's a wonderful system when it works, but when it doesn't you're still not stuck on the side of the road, and it's still a monster in the right hands.
It's funny how Land Rover is constantly picked on, when they're the origin of so much crazy technology and styling. They're now leading trends from styling right down to performance. That's an interesting development.
For me, the Defender is going to come down to what layouts they offer eventually. I'm sure it will be fine for most of what I'd do with it, but it's got some competition with the Jeep Gladiator (so long as it doesn't drive like anything Jeep has now), the Ridgeline, and AEV stuff off the rack, for me. I'm still not sure what the hell I want.
Land Rover could be producing a good middle ground here, but may reveal something that's actually got the brawn to back up the brains. Looks like we're finally going to find out soon.
Cheers,
Kennith
There are two types of trails that hold no interest for me. A trail that I know no matter what I do I won't make it, and a trail I know I will.
Look, all I'm saying is there are better choices than this for a trail rig. Personally I'm not taking this thing down anything worse than a muddy lane. If you'd choose to take it out and nick it up more power to you. That said, and just being frank, that reeks of more money than sense.
I have a buddy selling a 130. Let me know if you want me to connect you with him.
Have you priced out a 110 on-line? You won't get into one for anything close to 50k.I need a lottery ticket. Why 65k for 90 and 50k for 110?
Have you priced out a 110 on-line? You won't get into one for anything close to 50k.
It the way that they have them options. Looks like the 110 X has the most tricked out suspension stuff and to get it, you have to get a pile of goodies that come along with fro > 100K Yikes.
You can build a 110 with EAS, 18" steel wheels, all the off-road goodies they offer currently - a front winch should be a factory option but doesn't appear to be available yet - and a few other basic packs (cold weather pack, rubber mats) for less than $55k. Example:
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It's when you start picking leather everything, the bigger engine, electronic gizmos and fancy paints and wheels that things get expensive quickly.
All well and good, yet, not as Standard Equipment which drives the price up.Emergency Braking may save a distracted driver's butt on a highway and my guess is that technology will eventually become commonplace on every vehicle, like ABS. I assume you will be able to turn off some of those gizmos, especially the ones of the potentially annoying variety like Lane Keep Assist, Traffic Sign Recognition and Adaptive Speed limiter. On the other hand, as gimmicky as they sound on paper, some new features such as those built into the 3D Surround camera (ClearSight, aka the "transparent hood" camera view) could actually turn out to be useful off road.