03 Disco door locks

stimey

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I have read a few solutions but looking for some clarity. My 03 Disco rear doors won't lock or unlock. They will lock using super locking but when I just lock or unlock I can hear it clicking but nothing. Do I need new acuators or to just clean the mechanisms?
 

zeeklancer

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My back driver side door did that for a while. It fixed its self one day. The last one that failed cost me $300 to get fixed. I wish there was a better solution to this. :(
 

Big Papa

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zeeklancer said:
My back driver side door did that for a while. It fixed its self one day. The last one that failed cost me $300 to get fixed. I wish there was a better solution to this. :(

Fix it yourself.
 

pdogg

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the lock actuators cost about a hundred bucks and are easy to replace...

if all your doors are not locking, then you have bigger issues..
 

stimey

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no it is as described. just the rear locks. they lock with superlock but not on regular. I understand there is a separate motor for the superlock. thing that baffles me is I hear it clicking when I try to lock or unlock. I read were someone just cleaned the mechanism and it worked. electronics on the disco SUCK! I have the 3 Amigos. My alarm activates sometimes while I am in the seat and my dash lights blow fuses once a month.
 

pdogg

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you can remove them and check it out... but from my experience they are german engineered marvels with little levers and gears inside.. some have stated that they were able to lube them, replace motors.. etc.. but there is only one motor per door... superlocking only disables the interior handle, from the door's point of view..

if you have the RAVE CD, you can follow some easy steps to remove them..
 

stimey

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I have no desire to rebuild them but don't want to replace something that is not broke. If only one motor then why does superlock lock the doors and regular lock only make a clicking noise? I have the rave cd so perhaps I will pull them or 1st try jumping the wires with a 12v lead. I was hoping that a little wd40 in the right place may prevent the hassle of pulling the window to remove the actuator.
 

robopath

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Easy fix... there are plenty of places to get these at a resonable price. It is seriously not worth any further trouble in my book.
 

stimey

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pdogg said:
if its both at once, you may have an ECU issue..

I can't help you much here..

Ok it is not both at once. Superlock works. Regular lock doesn't. Regular lock I can hear clicking. Which either tells me that a) I have two motors. or b) the current is restricted on regular lock and is not enough to open the lock. I am thinking a. Can anyone confirm.
 

pdogg

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I'm saying if both rear doors stopped working at the same time, it's unlikely an actuator problem..

like I said before super locking just disables the interior door handle.. and on these actuators, everything is in one sealed unit... including mechanical inputs for all door handles, locking tumbler, door key, and even the latch that holds the door closed..

so when you super lock it, it's just flipping some other lever inside... there may very well be two or more little motors in there... take one out... have a look...

if you have experience working on german clocks, you'll have a blast.. I've opened mine up... and quickly gave up and ordered a new part.

so, basically... you won't take off the door panel and find 3 or 4 separate parts you can replace.. it's all in one..

here's what one looks like.. on the back side is the latch, the only part you see from the outside of the door, that catches on the door frame pin.

http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/FQM100710G.cfm

have fun.

Pdogg
 

zeeklancer

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pdogg said:
I'm saying if both rear doors stopped working at the same time, it's unlikely an actuator problem..

like I said before super locking just disables the interior door handle.. and on these actuators, everything is in one sealed unit... including mechanical inputs for all door handles, locking tumbler, door key, and even the latch that holds the door closed..

so when you super lock it, it's just flipping some other lever inside... there may very well be two or more little motors in there... take one out... have a look...

if you have experience working on german clocks, you'll have a blast.. I've opened mine up... and quickly gave up and ordered a new part.

so, basically... you won't take off the door panel and find 3 or 4 separate parts you can replace.. it's all in one..

here's what one looks like.. on the back side is the latch, the only part you see from the outside of the door, that catches on the door frame pin.

http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/FQM100710G.cfm

have fun.

Pdogg


Any clue what would cause one to stop working then suddenly start again?

One day I found the drivers side rear lock did not unlock or lock, but it did super lock. It was like this for about a month. Then one day when I was doing a lot of driving and had alot of people getting in and out of my car, and a lot of times of locking and unlocking the car. It just started working again. It seemed that if I locked it then pulled the handle twice and then locked it again and pulled the handle again that it would start to work again on its own. I have not tried this with my barn door lock yet, but I plan on doing so someday.

-Zeek
 

pdogg

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it wouldn't surprise me that one of the levers would get gummed up, and suddenly free up.. I opened mine up and saw lots of dusted up grease.. or could be affected by cold weather / hot weather.. etc..

they are very finicky devices...

:banghead:
 

stimey

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pdogg said:
I'm saying if both rear doors stopped working at the same time, it's unlikely an actuator problem..

like I said before super locking just disables the interior door handle.. and on these actuators, everything is in one sealed unit... including mechanical inputs for all door handles, locking tumbler, door key, and even the latch that holds the door closed..

so when you super lock it, it's just flipping some other lever inside... there may very well be two or more little motors in there... take one out... have a look...

if you have experience working on german clocks, you'll have a blast.. I've opened mine up... and quickly gave up and ordered a new part.

so, basically... you won't take off the door panel and find 3 or 4 separate parts you can replace.. it's all in one..

here's what one looks like.. on the back side is the latch, the only part you see from the outside of the door, that catches on the door frame pin.

http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/FQM100710G.cfm

have fun.

Pdogg
ok I understand what you are saying now. I forgot to mention that the problem was intermittent for a few weeks. I guess I should pull the acuator and fiddle with it by jumping out the wires etc. I already popped the door cover and looked at it. my fears are that I will have to remove the window and that the connections from the acuator to the levers are hidden. not sure how to unhook them and put back. Rave does not say. I know it drives me crazy. I just leave them unlocked. but just added a nice amp and new speakers. I did read others talking about dirt and dust in these things but although it is used it doesn't have one scratch and the back seats look like nobody ever used them.
 

sbsrlewis

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How hard is it to change the actuators? I just bought both for the front doors from a rolled DII that are suppose to be good and will hopefully fix the following problems.

My front passenger door will not unlock with the key or the remote nor will it lock once you start moving. You have to manually lock and unlock and that is getting to be a pain in the butt.

The drivers door will lock and unlock with the key but not the remote plus it will not lock once you start moving. The rest of the doors will but not this one.

The remaining three doors work fine. The above problems started with the drivers door and about two months later the passenger door.

I am hoping to put the new actuators in this weekend but have no idea whats involved as I've never had the door panels off this truck before. (I have changed lock actuators in other trucks before).
 

pdogg

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sbsrlewis said:
How hard is it to change the actuators? I just bought both for the front doors from a rolled DII that are suppose to be good and will hopefully fix the following problems.

My front passenger door will not unlock with the key or the remote nor will it lock once you start moving. You have to manually lock and unlock and that is getting to be a pain in the butt.

The drivers door will lock and unlock with the key but not the remote plus it will not lock once you start moving. The rest of the doors will but not this one.

The remaining three doors work fine. The above problems started with the drivers door and about two months later the passenger door.

I am hoping to put the new actuators in this weekend but have no idea whats involved as I've never had the door panels off this truck before. (I have changed lock actuators in other trucks before).

it's not a tough job, but for the fronts, you have to take the window out... the mirror comes off too.. the window frame..

if you had the RAVE instructions it would help... download it ... do a search..

the first time it took me 45 minutes to an hour... the second time, 20 minutes.
 
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ajh

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Wait, if you're blowing fuses then there's something wrong. You need to figure out what is shorting out, one short in the wrong place in a Land Rover can cause a cascade of havoc through the entire vehicle in many different systems. This is also why it's good to check all your grounding points anually to make sure they're clean and tight.
 

pdogg

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I just checked,

AB = $119
roverconnection.com = $105
roversnorth = $111
britishpacific.com = $99

this was for the front driver side...
P/N FQJ102910