Are you really calling the Land Cruiser a low quality import? Especially compared to 70s vintage Jeeps?
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Are you really calling the Land Cruiser a low quality import? Especially compared to 70s vintage Jeeps?
I guess Land Rover wasn't the only company that made a vehicle that competed with Jeep for market share and couldn't capitalize. Came across this at work today.
Huh? This is the current version of the Land Cruiser. I don't know of any two-doors being made.It's still around. Here it is as sold today, just not here. Could it compete here now? Not with today's safety and efficiency standards, and not in numbers great enough to justify the trouble.
Just know newer Rovers are nowhere near as fun to drive as your D2. The trade off is not having to be glued to your temp gauge and an incredibly smooth ride. What are the body bits that are getting brittle?
I guess I'd be in the minority here because I look at it and wonder why it wouldn't sell. The thing that also occurs to me, there's a theme running through this thread, when discussing why the Defender, or now this truck, isn't offered here is safety and emissions. I guess I'd wonder what Jeep knows these companies don't. They seem to not have a problem meeting these requirements and sell a shit ton of units in the process.It's still around. Here it is as sold today, just not here. Could it compete here now? Not with today's safety and efficiency standards, and not in numbers great enough to justify the trouble.
I guess I'd wonder what Jeep knows these companies don't. They seem to not have a problem meeting these requirements and sell a shit ton of units in the process.
I think what the previous 2 pages are inferring is that Jeep, being domestic, gets a winkwink-nudgenudge pass by the government on those issues.
Not quite
https://www.thedrive.com/news/28300...wrangler-after-one-star-safety-ratings-abroad
Their reckoning is coming.
Interesting article.Not quite
https://www.thedrive.com/news/28300...wrangler-after-one-star-safety-ratings-abroad
Their reckoning is coming.
Huh? This is the current version of the Land Cruiser. I don't know of any two-doors being made.
And it's got a shit-ton of electronics, 18" wheels and IFS, too!
Anyway, like the article said, unless some of this stuff is mandated it isn't going to matter.
I think LR is betting it will be soon enough, or already is, among their global markets.
Meanwhile at Mercedes..
https://carbuzz.com/news/2019-mercedes-g-class-crashes-its-way-to-5-star-safety-rating
This (1969 FJ40) is at my local Toyota dealership, for only $28k. I have to keep telling myself to just walk away, every time I'm in there for parts.Spotted in the outer banks this past week. Right hand drive diesel! Id take it over any current LR platform.
I'm guessing you are tempted to buy it because its cool looking and would be fun to drive? Let's face it, a 1969 FJ40 isn't exactly cutting edge technology. It doesnThis (1969 FJ40) is at my local Toyota dealership, for only $28k. I have to keep telling myself to just walk away, every time I'm in there for parts.
https://www.toyotaofbristol.com/use...istol+tn-1ec51d420a0e0a6b0156e18078eac0c0.htm
This (1969 FJ40) is at my local Toyota dealership, for only $28k. I have to keep telling myself to just walk away, every time I'm in there for parts.
https://www.toyotaofbristol.com/use...istol+tn-1ec51d420a0e0a6b0156e18078eac0c0.htm
All of this. What a lost opportunity for JLR....The people that want to do outdoorsy stuff aren't going to buy the Defender. They're going to buy a Subaru, or Jeep, or maybe a 4Runner. The new Defender isn't even going to dent that market. This model isn't going to pull in any NEW customers. No one is selling their Jeep to buy a new Defender.
They made a vehicle that is a jack of all trades, yet master at none. Its luxurious, but not as much as a Discovery or Range Rover. It can be offroaded, but can't be modified enough for most serious off roaders. It can be outdoorsy, but the price tag will be prohibitive for a lot of people that acutally use them for hauling bikes and kayaks and such.
Land Rover has built a vehicle they think people should want. The reality is most people want a Wrangler. It has enough tech to keep most people satisfied in regards to bluetooth etc. It can be heavily modified to take on ridiculous trails. The doors and top can be completely removed for beach running or just cruising around. Its a FUN vehicle that people WANT to drive; and they're willing to deal with the somewhat rudimentary interior and less tech.
I'm guessing you are tempted to buy it because its cool looking and would be fun to drive? Let's face it, a 1969 FJ40 isn't exactly cutting edge technology. It doesn
t have any better 4WD capability that a D1, and its probably not super comfortable. But its a vehicle that, after you park it and lock it up, you'll look back at as you're walking away just because its cool.
Simply put, the Defender won't be FUN to drive. It will be like driving any other milk-toast SUV on the market.