256k on an '05 L322?!

seventyfive

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Rover mechanics will always complain about bmw engines just like us bmw mechanics complain about which ever engine rover put in a rover.

Any bmw enthusiast will be the first to say the m60, m62, m62tu, and n62 engines are terrible BUT we know them so we are comfortable with them. Once a bmw v8 gets over 100k miles it starts to run a little unbalanced in lower rpm, the oil pump bolts may start to loosen, the valve covers leak, the crank case vent valve starts to fail, and you'll probably be on your second water pump by then.

The issues I've seen with bmw v8's in rovers is not what I see in bmw's. I know it happens, but in 10 years I have never had to do timing chain guides in a bmw, but it seems as though a common occurrence in a rover. When we used to see range rovers from the dealership we saw a lot of gasket maker sealant used either with or in place of seals and gaskets....which I can understand a rover mechanic using shit loads of sealant.

There seems to be a common denominator with rovers though, no matter what engine they find and shove in their vehicles they seem to create issues that are not as common when those engines are in the engine manufacturers vehicles. I talked to a ford mechanic and he says the 5 liters are great, ask a rover mechanic about the 5 liter. Ask a bmw mechanic what he thinks about a bmw v8 then ask a rover mechanic. Then there are jag engines. Jag engines seem to work fine in rovers most likely because jag engines work well with English fuel mapping?

Also keep in mind no matter what engine you put in a vehicle IF THE OWNER ONLY HAS THE OIL CHANGED EVERY 10k-15k miles then by the time it hits 100k it's on borrowed time. I think a lot of people seem to overlook the fact that if the engine has not been maintained then you shouldn't really expect it to perform like a brand new engine at 100k miles. Unless its a Mercedes diesel.
 

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So your saying a newer vehicle is supposed to be better than its predecessor? Of course newer is better especially when you make vehicles like the freelander.

Look at the price jump from the BMW trucks to a Jag truck. I did all with 100k miles in 'very good' condition with no extra options. The Jag trucks are better quality and command a higher price.

http://www.kbb.com/land-rover/range...mileage=100000&pricetype=private-party#survey

http://www.kbb.com/land-rover/range...n-sell&mileage=100000&pricetype=private-party

http://www.kbb.com/land-rover/range...n-sell&mileage=100000&pricetype=private-party

http://www.kbb.com/land-rover/range...n-sell&mileage=100000&pricetype=private-party
 

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I'm not going to argue the jag rovers are better than the bmw powered rovers. I've never said or typed the bmw powered rovers are better than the jag rovers.

What you're saying is it took rover 36 years to finally make a reliable well built truck, by comparing the predecessors.

I'm saying its easy to make a reliable well built truck when you compare it's predecessors.

You have to admit, is it really too much to ask for a reliable well built truck when you're spending over $70k dollars? Especially when it's marketed as the finest most luxurious sport utility in the world? Personally if I had that kind of money I would have a fully restored 461 g320. You ever notice how Benz doesn't even have to spend $1 to market the gwagen?

Like I said, I'm not arguing with you at all. But you yourself are admitting rover has made some real turds.
 
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jymmiejamz

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I'm not going to argue the jag rovers are better than the bmw powered rovers. I've never said or typed the bmw powered rovers are better than the jag rovers.

What you're saying is it took rover 36 years to finally make a reliable well built truck, by comparing the predecessors.

I'm saying its easy to make a reliable well built truck when you compare it's predecessors.

You have to admit, is it really too much to ask for a reliable well built truck when you're spending over $70k dollars? Especially when it's marketed as the finest most luxurious sport utility in the world? Personally if I had that kind of money I would have a fully restored 461 g320. You ever notice how Benz doesn't even have to spend $1 to market the gwagen?

Like I said, I'm not arguing with you at all. But you yourself are admitting rover has made some real turds.

Gotcha, I was a little confuse by your previous post. Land Rover has definitely made some junk over the years, but they are always improving in my opinion. I would love to own a 2014 Range Rover LWB.
 

seventyfive

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I would love to own anything that has a manufacturer warranty with a premium extended warranty!!! Fixing other people's cars all day only to have to fix my own turds is getting old.