3.9 vs 4.0 V8 reliability? which is better?

juha_teuvonnen

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robertf said:
if it was that simple GM would have done that in the 60's instead of building the 215 engine.

Aluminum blocks were more difficult to make, and had a lower yield (more factory defects per 100 blocks made). Weight was not an issue back in the 60s, so going with aluminum block would be making the car more expensive for no apparent reason. A gallon of regular gas was 30 cents back in the 1960 ;) Things changed in the 1970s and 80s. GM started putting aluminum heads on iron blocks and eventually built an all-aluminum engine when weight became enough of an issue. By that time the old small block was a rather outdated design that did not allow for high enough compression to meet emissions standards. LT1 engines had their cooling system redesigned which allowed for higher compression, but they had their own set of issues. So instead of making an aluminum version of LT1 or LT4 folks at GM designed a new engine - LS1. They also flirted with DOHC setup but quickly discovered the same thing that Porsche learned the hard way on their 928 motor - DOHC V8 with 4 valves per cylinder are heavy as all hell and not particularly reliable.
 

d1driver

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Man, you will waste a ton of your life reading through this thread. Some of you guys need to get a life! Too much time on your hands.
 

robertf

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I like how he has to explain what yield is. Who the hell is this guy? I know he has a subscription to hot rod.
 

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juha_teuvonnen said:
DOHC V8 with 4 valves per cylinder are heavy as all hell and not particularly reliable.
It cracks me up when people talk about how outdated OHV engines are... GM managed to achieve the industry-best gas mileage (for comparable weight/engine displacement) with pushrod engines and 4-speed automatics; too bad it made many vehicles barely driveable...
 

LuisC

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Something that not many people know is that Oldsmobile experimented with 4 valve aluminum heads on, of all engines, the 455cid in the late 60's. The program was scraped in 69 because of lack of interest in the racing world for Olds and lack of money to continue. Thus Chevy, Pontiac, and Buick all benefited. I wished I had a set of those when I was racing Olds at the track along with the aluminum W27 rear end.
 

Shocker

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You guys need to stop feeding the troll.

He is so full of misinformation, inaccurate assumptions and downright falsehoods it is amazing.

EDIT - Sorry for the first post. I have been reading about Disco's and and I am getting ready to buy my first one. I just couldn't stop myself from commenting.