3x hella 4000's wiring diagram

[James Long]

I posted earlier this week asking how to wire three lights to my rig. since hella doesn't offer a 3x light wiring harness I posted a thread on how to do this. With some negative(retarded) responses, and some good ones as well, I came up with this wiring diagram for three lights, and a worklamp. There is a tech section on light wiring, but they all point toward rack mounted lights. Here is my diagram, and I would appriciate any imput.

Thanks.

 

[rovercanus]

Here's some input. Where's the diagram?

 

[MUSKYMAN]

I didnt see the other thread?

why not post it in that thread?

I built my own wiring harness and relay set up for my front 3 hella's and it works perfect...they are just lights there really shouldent be anything to over think.

 

[smelly pirelli]

I posted warlier this week asking how to wire three lights to my rig. since hella doesn't offer a 3x light wiring harness I posted a thread on how to do this. With some negative(retarded) responses, and some good ones as well, I came up with this wiring diagram for three lights, and a worklamp. There is a tech section on light wiring, but they all point toward rack mounted lights. Here is my diagram, and I would appriciate any imput.

Thanks.

UMMM where is the diagram! and who's warlier and is imput like an owput!

 

[James Long]

file compression is a bitch

 

[James Long]

UMMM where is the diagram! and who's warlier and is imput like an owput!

I know I suck at spelling, but I am good at other sheet!

 

[James Long]

If you guys cannot read the text I will work on it some more

 

[smelly pirelli]

I know I suck at spelling, but I am good at other sheet!

im just messing with you ! lol

 

[rovercanus]

Yes. It will work. Remember our wire gauge and Ohms law. watts/volts=amps
If you aren't going over 10 or so feet then use this.
16 gauge, 10 amps
14 gauge, 15 amps
12 gauge, 20 amps
10 gauge, 25 amps
8 gauge, 30 amps
Just use 14 gauge for everything going to the lights and you'll be good. Remember to feed your positive terminal block with the right size wire.

 

[James Long]

I didnt see the other thread?

why not post it in that thread?

I built my own wiring harness and relay set up for my front 3 hella's and it works perfect...they are just lights there really shouldent be anything to over think.

I agree with you. but the task seemed a challenging one for me. Electrical wiring has always been something that I have been unframilliar with. I did some digging around, and I just wanted to set it up right, you on the other hand, seem to be in the buisness of solving everyone else's problems (incuding myself), so what seems like a feat to me may not be much to you. Thanks

 

[James Long]

Yes. It will work. Remember our wire gauge and Ohms law. watts/volts=amps
If you aren't going over 10 or so feet then use this.
16 gauge, 10 amps
14 gauge, 15 amps
12 gauge, 20 amps
10 gauge, 25 amps
8 gauge, 30 amps
Just use 14 gauge for everything going to the lights and you'll be good. Remember to feed your positive terminal block with the right size wire.

Thanks borther, the text is hard to read, but I was going for 8ga. to the terminal blocks.

 

[rovercanus]

So again we'll go 300/12=25amps
8 gauge will be fine.
If you can, welding cable makes great automotive wiring. It's very flexible with a good insulation coating.
Cable that is used for car audio is fine also, it's more expensive because they make it pretty. I'm using 4 gauge to a power distribution block and branching to my relays from there.

 

[gmookher]

whya re you using three relays, do you want each lamp to be controlled by a single switch? why not use 1 heavy duty relay for all three or put two on a relay and a third ona separate switch?(just wanting to know not at all trying to give you a hard time)

 

[James Long]

I have 2x on one 30a relay, one on another, and the worklamp on an additional relay. the three lights are controlled by one switch. So, you are saying that I can put all three 100W lights on a single relay?

 

[James Long]

So again we'll go 300/12=25amps
8 gauge will be fine.
If you can, welding cable makes great automotive wiring. It's very flexible with a good insulation coating.
Cable that is used for car audio is fine also, it's more expensive because they make it pretty. I'm using 4 gauge to a power distribution block and branching to my relays from there.

Welding, is that a brand? Where can I get it?

 

[scottjal]

You can load the relays up to their rated amperage rating leaving a little room for safety. You are going to get arguments from this board both ways but some prefer to have one relay/fuse for each device so if you cook something you won't loose all your lighting. Myself I put everything on one but I'm not running that high wattage.

 

[MUSKYMAN]

I agree with you. but the task seemed a challenging one for me. Electrical wiring has always been something that I have been unframilliar with. I did some digging around, and I just wanted to set it up right, you on the other hand, seem to be in the buisness of solving everyone else's problems (incuding myself), so what seems like a feat to me may not be much to you. Thanks

not really sure how to take that?

never the less

I did mine really simple, after watching a perfectly wired hella set up running the hella relays go up in smoke I decided I wasent going the standard lightsmilelol: ) duty direction.

I used a constant duty golf cart selonoid to power mine and I wired it so that it is triggered by giving it a ground contact as aposed to giving it a hot lead.

This way the trigger wire running through the firewall and under the dash is never hot...worst case scenerio if the wire were to be damaged all that happens is the lights go on. this also allowed me to locate the selonoid 8" from the battery for as short of main power lead as possible.

I then built a simple fully soldered lead running from the selonoid to the lights. by soldering it as aposed to some kind of crimp crap the resistance is reduced and that will prevent the lead from heating up.

Some may think this kinda set up is a bit hill billy but its simple and very reliable. I have done this in many trucks over the years and have powered all kinds of components such a multiple electric fans and off road lights without ever a issue.

 

[James Long]

not really sure how to take that?

never the less

I did mine really simple, after watching a perfectly wired hella set up running the hella relays go up in smoke I decided I wasent going the standard lightsmilelol: ) duty direction.

I used a constant duty golf cart selonoid to power mine and I wired it so that it is triggered by giving it a ground contact as aposed to giving it a hot lead.

This way the trigger wire running through the firewall and under the dash is never hot...worst case scenerio if the wire were to be damaged all that happens is the lights go on. this also allowed me to locate the selonoid 8" from the battery for as short of main power lead as possible.

I then built a simple fully soldered lead running from the selonoid to the lights. by soldering it as aposed to some kind of crimp crap the resistance is reduced and that will prevent the lead from heating up.

Some may think this kinda set up is a bit hill billy but its simple and very reliable. I have done this in many trucks over the years and have powered all kinds of components such a multiple electric fans and off road lights without ever a issue.

take it as a complement, and I think I will stick with what I have mapped out, but I will solder every connection.

 

[antichrist]

I didnt see the other thread?

why not post it in that thread?

Probably because he wanted advice but gave exactly zero amount of required information, claimed he knew the answer before he even posted (even though he says in this thread he's unfamilar with wiring), and got offended when he was given some facts that didn't jive with what he "knew". So now he needs a new thread because the other one didn't go right.

 

[antichrist]

If you aren't going over 10 or so feet then use this.

I'm glad you added this line, you were worrying me