ANR 4636 - 5.50F x 16 x 33 Wheels - Which tires do you run?

_ExpeditionMan

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Acquired some steelies that will make it onto the D1 soon. Is anyone running the 5.5 width ones on their trucks? Any issues running tubeless tires for daily driving/offroading? Was thinking KM3 in 235/85r16 but found out they dont offer it. Based on google searches it looks like most recommend the 7.5r16 size for these wheels. Thoughts and opinions?
 

jymmiejamz

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I run 7.5R16 Michelin street tires on my wife's D1 with 5.5" Series wheels. I have the same size tire on 5.5" wheels on my 110 with Michelin XZLs.

 

_ExpeditionMan

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I run 7.5R16 Michelin street tires on my wife's D1 with 5.5" Series wheels. I have the same size tire on 5.5" wheels on my 110 with Michelin XZLs.

What color is that D1? I assumed those michelins are tubeless? Any issues with losing air?

Have you used either offroad and aired down? Since they're technically tubed wheels I'm wondering how much that'll impact with tubeless tires.
 

jymmiejamz

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What color is that D1? I assumed those michelins are tubeless? Any issues with losing air?

Have you used either offroad and aired down? Since they're technically tubed wheels I'm wondering how much that'll impact with tubeless tires.
I can't remember what the color is. The tires are tubeless but mounted to riveted Series wheels. They don't leak at all. I have tubed wheels on my D90 with Michelin XZLs that I have used off road extensively and have never had an issue with a bead coming unseated. I usually air down to 10-12 psi off road.
 

_ExpeditionMan

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I can't remember what the color is. The tires are tubeless but mounted to riveted Series wheels. They don't leak at all. I have tubed wheels on my D90 with Michelin XZLs that I have used off road extensively and have never had an issue with a bead coming unseated. I usually air down to 10-12 psi off road.
Is it a stock D1 paint code? What year is the truck?

Has the D1 ever been offroad without tubes? Trying to make the decision now on whether I can risk running no tubes with KM3s or if I have to go with them. I believe my steelies are welded BTW.
 

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Difference between tube and tubeless rims is the safety bead which stops a flat tire coming off the rim and falling into the central well.

You can run tubes in tubeless tires but they need to be clean and smooth inside
(some tubeless tires have ridges which could cause an issue, not sure about KM3).

You can run tubeless tires on tube rims but risk them going flat and coming off the rim if soft so not a good idea IMO

Lots of crap talked about tubes getting more punctures (which they don't if rims are rust free and well painted)
Seen lots of tubes rubbed through by the valve stem with dirt and rust on the inside of the rim though.

Used to run BFG AT's with tubes but not been available for a long time in 750x16 stock size.
Alternate sizes are a bit wide for a 5.5 inch rim.

Anyone have a picture of the inside of a KM3?

Considering these for my early 110 with tube rims and want to know if they are compatible with tubes.
KM3 seem to be about only decent tread pattern radial tire available in 750x16
 

_ExpeditionMan

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Difference between tube and tubeless rims is the safety bead which stops a flat tire coming off the rim and falling into the central well.

You can run tubes in tubeless tires but they need to be clean and smooth inside
(some tubeless tires have ridges which could cause an issue, not sure about KM3).

You can run tubeless tires on tube rims but risk them going flat and coming off the rim if soft so not a good idea IMO

Lots of crap talked about tubes getting more punctures (which they don't if rims are rust free and well painted)
Seen lots of tubes rubbed through by the valve stem with dirt and rust on the inside of the rim though.

Used to run BFG AT's with tubes but not been available for a long time in 750x16 stock size.
Alternate sizes are a bit wide for a 5.5 inch rim.

Anyone have a picture of the inside of a KM3?

Considering these for my early 110 with tube rims and want to know if they are compatible with tubes.
KM3 seem to be about only decent tread pattern radial tire available in 750x16
Interested in this as well.
 

jymmiejamz

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You can run tubeless tires on tube rims but risk them going flat and coming off the rim if soft so not a good idea IMO
I've heard countless people say that over the years, but that definitely has not been my experience. I've spent a lot of time on and off road with tube rims and tubeless tires without issue. I know a bunch of others that have done the same.
 
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I guess the main issue is safety bead or lack of it; here's an article with pictures of two types of rims side by side:

I'd say... even if a 5.5-inch rim had a safety bead, it would not keep a 7.50-16 tire seated if severely underinflated or in a very sharp turn. Just like proper tubeless-designed rims won't keep a tire seated under the same conditions.
Keep your pressure and driving habits reasonable, and things will be okay.
 

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I'm one who ran (not by choice; came with the D1 when I bought it) tubeless tires on tubed wheels (NATOs). In 13 years, I had only one incident of the tire bead sliding off the seat, and that was offroad, aired down low (16 lbs or under), going downhill on rocks, and with the wheels turned sharply making a hard turn. I would categorize that situation as atypical, and suspect driver error was the biggest contributor. I bent the crap out of the wheel, but sledge hammered it back into usable shape at home.

I also bought KM3s last year (to go onto new tubeless steelies :) ), but in 255/85-16, and they have bands/ribs/ridges on the inside (not tube friendly).

As others have said, it'll be fine to run without a tube so long as you're not doing extreme things which could force the tire off the seat.
 

_ExpeditionMan

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I'm one who ran (not by choice; came with the D1 when I bought it) tubeless tires on tubed wheels (NATOs). In 13 years, I had only one incident of the tire bead sliding off the seat, and that was offroad, aired down low (16 lbs or under), going downhill on rocks, and with the wheels turned sharply making a hard turn. I would categorize that situation as atypical, and suspect driver error was the biggest contributor. I bent the crap out of the wheel, but sledge hammered it back into usable shape at home.

I also bought KM3s last year (to go onto new tubeless steelies :) ), but in 255/85-16, and they have bands/ribs/ridges on the inside (not tube friendly).

As others have said, it'll be fine to run without a tube so long as you're not doing extreme things which could force the tire off the seat.
The only extreme things I plan on doing will be at very low speeds! Well I wish I had read a bit more and sprung for a set of tubeless steelies, but I like the way these look.