Are you using Mobil 1 or K&N filters?
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That's why I use K&N. Plus I learned something new about them.... "The drilled hole on the nut provides for safety wire attachment."pdxrovermech said:
But seriously, other than being more expensive is there anything wrong with K&N?
kk88rrc said:
For what they are, they are three to four times the price of OE filters, and quite honestly they don't do it better than what LR fit in my view, for a standard truck.
If you've got a tuned engine with need for high airflow rates, they 'might' be better, but apart from saying that you've spent money on K&N, I don't see the attraction of their products at all.
It's like silicon hoses, they look pretty in fancy colours, but for 95% of LR drivers, they offer few benefits over the OE hoses.
Peter
I'm in no way pushing K&N filters, I've only used one once, and it was on my Acura because I couldn't get to the dealer for an OE filter... BUT there are two lines of K&N, one is white with the nut on the end, marketed to DIY people, the other is the exact same filter, but painted black, and sans-nut, marketed to shops because without the nut you can put a socket style oil filter wrench on it. These black filters are about the same price as any other name brand filter with a decent reputation.
That's what I'm using because I got a great deal on them, but previously been using Wix 51515.11b4v said:
I've nearly always used either Wix, Hastings (bought by Baldwin) or Baldwin since I bought my first Land Rover in '74.
Read the link in the OP.kk88rrc said:
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Tom:
I can't see the issue with the relief valve position. If the filter has that much sludge in it, the sludge won't be mobile anyway, it will be compacted in the dome end, it isn't loose material generally. I'll definitely cut open our next oil change filter and see what we have in there, but I'd be very surprised if there was any debris at all.
As far as letting unfiltered oil into the engine goes, if it is through oil filter blockage then you NEED oil to flow, if it is through relief valve failure - I don't know HOW you'd know it had failed, other than maybe lower than usual oil pressure?
The drain-back seals weren't that prevalent until some engines had the filters horizontal or upside down on the engine. Wouldn't affect a V8 Rover that much if it wasn't there.
Just my thoughts....
Peter
I can't see the issue with the relief valve position. If the filter has that much sludge in it, the sludge won't be mobile anyway, it will be compacted in the dome end, it isn't loose material generally. I'll definitely cut open our next oil change filter and see what we have in there, but I'd be very surprised if there was any debris at all.
As far as letting unfiltered oil into the engine goes, if it is through oil filter blockage then you NEED oil to flow, if it is through relief valve failure - I don't know HOW you'd know it had failed, other than maybe lower than usual oil pressure?
The drain-back seals weren't that prevalent until some engines had the filters horizontal or upside down on the engine. Wouldn't affect a V8 Rover that much if it wasn't there.
Just my thoughts....
Peter
Personally I think the oil washing along the dirty side of the filter in bypass mode and picking up loose contaminants, when the valve is on the dome end, is more of an issue than a big pile of sludge.listerdiesel said:
There are a number of filters that don't have the valve-in-dome-end design to choose from, so I don't see any reason to use one that does.
Yeah, I agree on the Rovers it's not really an issue, unless some sort of siphon action occurs.
Would you have loose contaminants in the outer filter?
We run on detergent oil and LPG, so very little in the way of carbon or other deposits.
Took the plugs out this afternoon to re-gap them, we've hardly touched them in 54k miles, all looked fine, a spot of Copaslip on the threads and back they went.
Also picked up some more in Michigan, $4.25 each plus free postage for Double Platinum plugs. They will go to our friends in Cupertino CA, we'll be over next month for some R&R
Peter
We run on detergent oil and LPG, so very little in the way of carbon or other deposits.
Took the plugs out this afternoon to re-gap them, we've hardly touched them in 54k miles, all looked fine, a spot of Copaslip on the threads and back they went.
Also picked up some more in Michigan, $4.25 each plus free postage for Double Platinum plugs. They will go to our friends in Cupertino CA, we'll be over next month for some R&R
Peter
Got a good deal and picked up a few of these. I've used OEM, Bosch and some no-brand off the shelf filter in a pinch.singingcamel said:
I don't know. I guess "loose" is a relative term. I don't mean like huge flakes of stuff, but I don't know if bits would be firmly embedded enough for some to not be washed off by the oil flow.listerdiesel said:
Using low carbon fuel would certainly mitigate any worry.
But since we can get, on this side of the pond anyway, excellent filters for less money, I don't see any reason to use filters with the bypass in the dome end..
