Bill Burke Camel Trophy Presentation in Portland, OR Saturday Oct 3rd

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bri said:
So let's all harp on RTE, OME and all those people for copying the design of the spring!

Last time I checked RTE was not twisting up springs. They sell springs that someone else makes.

Anyway, have fun at your slideshow. Maybe Larry will get a few bottles of Scotch for everyone to enjoy....because that would be really original.
 
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lwg said:
Actions speak louder than words, and Dan sure does a lot of talking (usually about other people)...

Hmmm, so what does the action of you ripping off other peoples design say?
 

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D Chapman said:
Hmmm, so what does the action of you ripping off other peoples design say?

So Dan, who made the stainless steering bars first? YOU or Rovertym?
Do they pay you royalties on those?
 
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I started off making D2 drag links. RTE did not make those then. No one did.

Then I started making the 1.5" 4140 tie rods because we were bending the RTE links.

The D1 drag links were not part of the original plan, but I bent mine, and made me a new one plus a few others. I sold just enough to make mine free. In fact, there were very few stainless drag links. I can't remember how many as it was what, 4-years ago? The ones I was turning out were 4140. I wanted 4140 because it had more memory to it and would flex back into shape if hit a little better than the soft stainless rods.

But it was not long after that we figured out it was not the size of your shaft or what it was made of. It was the location. The Rockware off-set tie rods were the ultimate fix. No sense in making something you do not believe in yourself, so I stopped making tie roads and drag links.

The only Royalties paid were what I paid to Dweb for the use of the For Sale section. I actually followed the rules and paid my part, unlike others........
 

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D Chapman said:
I started off making D2 drag links. RTE did not make those then. No one did.

Then I started making the 1.5" 4140 tie rods because we were bending the RTE links.

The D1 drag links were not part of the original plan, but I bent mine, and made me a new one plus a few others. I sold just enough to make mine free. In fact, there were very few stainless drag links. I can't remember how many as it was what, 4-years ago? The ones I was turning out were 4140. I wanted 4140 because it had more memory to it and would flex back into shape if hit a little better than the soft stainless rods.

But it was not long after that we figured out it was not the size of your shaft or what it was made of. It was the location. The Rockware off-set tie rods were the ultimate fix. No sense in making something you do not believe in yourself, so I stopped making tie roads and drag links.

The only Royalties paid were what I paid to Dweb for the use of the For Sale section. I actually followed the rules and paid my part, unlike others........


I understand now, thanks it makes more sense. You can change the design to suit your needs. It's trial and error and that's the way it should be, you run something and find flaws and hopefully keep evolving the product. RTE did not produce DII bars and started after you and I'm sure there were no ill feelings for Steve expanding his product line and for the most part that product line hasn't changed except for the addition of some NEW products.
Larry has taken a design that has not changed or evolved and made something similar that fits in his product line and obviuosly people other than yourself can appreciate. Larry's sliders are very similar to ours, and I do not know who made there's first I do believe it is a very solid design and we will keep updating our products as time goes on.
I personally do not get butt hurt over the drivel you post up about HLC Fab products. It actually keeps the thread at the top of the page most times, so Thank You Dan! Who knows Dan, we may actually meet some day and you might be as cool as everyone that know's you personally says you are.


Almost forgot, the folks that have or have not donated to Dweb after selling stuff know who they are and may feel compelled to let everyone know and some do not. The couple of items I actually sold thru Dweb did actually produce money that I gladly donated to the cause, actually more than requested. You may be in the know who has made such donations and maybe not, but I personally do not feel the need to announce this for recognition. JMTC
 
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this is officially a lame thread now..

HLC,HCF,RTE,CR,LGI, all good vendors. Ol' Chappy there adds value too when he's not on the rag..

we're all one big happy family, lets all play nice now, fuckers
 

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DennyDoler said:
Who knows Dan, we may actually meet some day and you might be as cool as everyone that know's you personally says you are.

Nobody's cooler than me, Denny. ;)
 

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Nomar said:
Nobody's cooler than me, Denny. ;)

I have to agree, anyone that has the gumption to keep 3 Classics going and wheel the piss out of one has got to be cool. Next time we need to wheel together.
 
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DennyDoler said:
Larry's sliders are very similar to ours, and I do not know who made there's first I do believe it is a very solid design and we will keep updating our products as time goes on.


Oh, you mean like the ones I made back in 2003 that Slickrock later started making that Larry now makes?
http://i5.piczo.com/view/1/r/t/4/3/4/h/3/a/2/1/img/i2586529_78285.jpg
http://i5.piczo.com/view/1/r/t/4/3/4/h/3/a/2/1/img/i2586527_7537.jpg
http://i5.piczo.com/view/1/r/t/4/3/4/h/3/a/2/1/img/i5958557_11771.jpg
 

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chappy, you sound bitter. I'm sorry. Seeing someone so butt-hurt just breaks my heart.

so you were a pioneer, we all respect you for your being on top of your game, but really, the whining is very unbecoming of you pal..

get over yourself

for all this whining, wheres your website/product-line/manufacturing and distribution facility?

I love being a hater too, but I see nothing substantive here, just Al Bundi-isms
 

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D Chapman said:

Yes Dan, They are very similar and since you or Slick Rock do not commercialy produce them I will continue to do so. You should be flattered that your design is popular. I did not copy yours, Slick Rocks or Larry's. I came up with My design without ever spying any of these, can you believe it! We must share the same brain? I guess I was 2 years behind the curve since I built my first set in 05'.
 
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gmookher said:
for all this whining, wheres your website/product-line/manufacturing and distribution facility?

Its all been posted before. Search. But I no longer deal with the Rover shit any longer. That's old news. I sell motorcycle parts now for the new Bonneville.
 
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Tee's and stickers are more of a hobby. I've done a few orders with several hundred tee's for a few companies, but I'm not actively selling tee's or stickers. I'm set-up to do so, but have not met the demand.