Bridging ladders?

MUSKYMAN

MUSKYMAN

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wow thats alot of fancy stuff in your sig line for such lame driving.:rofl: 5 or 6 trys to get up that spot? I would think for being a "certified trainer" you would be able to drive up that little spot blindfolded in your sleep?

so If you were really stuck why in the video do you have booth a incorrect placement and a correct placement illustrated?

and how did you get the pillows under the tires?

I call BS
 
ArmyRover

ArmyRover

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not impressed at all...... With no cdl, no lockers, probably the same amount of lift and height of tires I've made it up much worse than that.
 
Rugbier

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Why would someone NOT RELATED, PAYED or otherwise associated with the pool rafts, will take the time to come to this site, sign up and then place a long and detailed explanation of an event NO ONE CARES ?


I will second Muskyman's call, but since pillowtracks appears to be a Zabra Company, I think it deserves it in its own language

SHTUIOTS
 
RoverDisco98

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I can think of several situations where the bags would have been very nice to have had. Yea I was able to get out w/o them but the time spent shoveling and finding things to shove under the tires could have been better spend wheeling. I'm not sure of the price but the concept is valid and anything that will keep me moving is worth looking at. These could easily fit the "right tool for the job" scenario.
Perhaps Pillowtrack was a bit over enthusiastic about what these can do however; the board has also been a bit over zealous in the responses.

OK That's my 2 cents
 
MUSKYMAN

MUSKYMAN

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what part of that video makes them look useful Frank?

4wheeling is a thinking man's game so having the right tools does give you more options, but from that video and the pics posted so far these things look to give almost nothing for advantage and they keep showing them in places that a better selection of line would have allowed the trucks to drive right through.

Very often the correct line is only inches away from one that will stop a truck or do damage. Better spotting and a deeper understanding of where to place your tires will get you farther down the trail then some poser pillows IMHO.
 
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peter sherman

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Hey Frank! How are they hanging!!
With your situation I think lockers & lower gearing would help you tremendously. I know its a big nut but seriously seriously help you..
 
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Pillowtrack

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Rugbier said:
Why would someone NOT RELATED, PAYED or otherwise associated with the pool rafts, will take the time to come to this site, sign up and then place a long and detailed explanation of an event NO ONE CARES ?
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Thank you for the credit Rubinger, but if we were so sophisticated we would probably be working in the High Tech industry... :)
 
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Pillowtrack

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MUSKYMAN said:
Very often the correct line is only inches away from one that will stop a truck or do damage. Better spotting and a deeper understanding of where to place your tires will get you farther down the trail then some poser pillows IMHO.
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Couldn't be better said,
(plus an equipped vehicle: diffloc, suspension, tires etc.)

Yet, the more trained the driver is ,and the more the vehicle is equipped, the less need is there for recovery gear.

Not all drivers select the best path, not all vehicles are fully equipped.

Some may find the Pillowtrack fit for them and their vehicles, others may not.

Just like some would prefer investing in an ARB lock and others will not... (No, no claim is made here that Pillowtrack is a replacement for an ARB lock !!! )
 
DiscoveryXD

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where i'm at right now, duh...
I'm waiting for a staged video of a Pillowtrack being used as a PFD!

"Help me!! I'm drowning!!!"

"No Fear! PillowTrack is Here!!"

pillowtrack man then throws out a pillowtrack conected to a Kia's 2500lb ATV winch on the front.

:rolleyes:
 
jwest

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My grippy 48"x12" waffleboards will be more useful in 10x as many situations and do not require screwing around with the air compressor. the pillows also require an air compressor. i guess all the kia's come with one now?

the pillows look like neat initial design idea but silly end product. it wasn't ready for public release.

would they work on snowy side slope ? NO.
will the actually bridge anything with no support under them? NO.
will they puncture - YES
will they work IN a river ? as they float away....
will they work as well in step ledges? NO.
 
jwest

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GRM said:
To give a little more background on the situation arising from that video. I had attempted that hill 5 or 6 times without any luck.
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I hate any stupid videos with some idiot twisting the camera to enhance the "hill". I can see what it is by the trees and it's not a driveway but it looked a bit easy enough to just go little faster, a little left or right, a little something else in general. Why would you bother fucking around with airing up pillows over just dropping a track or two in the rut? bring 4 and you could work a 100' rutt no problem in a few minutes. or you could use them to drive crosswise out onto the level ground just feet away.

the pillows are silly and they need better colors, like pink, or carolina blue. there could be a special edition "road kill" version shaped and printed like your favorite road kill. ooh, a pillow printed to look like a rock or log would be great.
 
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Pillowtrack

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jwest said:
My grippy 48"x12" waffleboards will be more useful in 10x as many situations and do not require screwing around with the air compressor. the pillows also require an air compressor. i guess all the kia's come with one now?
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With 15" rear-axle to ground, no doughty wafflebords are the solution best fit for you and your vehicle. And apparently you have enough room to carry them and the additional jacking device (hi-lift / X-jack or other). Most probably they are the best solution for Antichrist, who opened this thread, as well... (This was my first recommendation....)

This Pillowtrack version is fit to answer a certain level of trailing, vehicles and obstacles: It will fill up 12" in bridging, Enable Step climbing, Get you off high center, sand and mud.

It will carry the weight of most off-road vehicles (including a loaded LR) and will rarely puncture (when it does: it will take about 1 minute to replace the bladder).

As already stated here: It is what it is.

Pillowtrack fits some travelers, it doesn't fit others.
It is a free world! (Well some of it is.....)

btw: never met a serious off-roder traveling without a compressor (mounted under the hood or not).
 
jwest

jwest

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Pillowtrack said:

btw: never met a serious off-roder traveling without a compressor (mounted under the hood or not).
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My point was that serious off roaders would use something other than the pillows....and the pillows appear to be shown in examples by less than "serious" off roaders.

Really, these silly things are going to get me up a 36" step? Just stop the banter. go redesign them.
 
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