Catalytic Converter Theft

mrbieler

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Apparently it's quietly becoming a major issue again. Here in California, due to new laws, it's not even a misdemeanor as it's under $1000 in theft. The big target locally apparently are Prius's, but trucks like the Disco are an easy target due to height and ease of access.

Last night I work up to a strange grinding noise in the front of our house at 2:30AM. I peeked outside and saw a truck parked next to mine running with the lights on. The grinding noise happened again and my foggy 2AM brain assumed it might be a bad starter on the truck. The third time I heard it, I knew something was up. Grabbed a flashlight and a thumper and headed outside. Got to the front of my truck and asked what the fuck they were doing at 2AM. I heard a voice from down below between my truck and his say "shit". A hispanic male popped up, jumped in the truck, and the driver took off. Unfortunately I didn't have my glasses on to get the plate #.

After looking around and not seeing anything apparent on my truck, I went back inside to go back to sleep as I had to be up at 3:30AM to go to work. I didn't get back to sleep, but before heading out in my work car, I checked on the truck again and didn't see anything. While driving to work, a light bulb one off in my head and I knew I had to check the cats when I got home.

This afternoon, I got back, popped my head up the truck and saw this:

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Thankfully, I got them before they got the cat. They were 1 cut away. A replacement Y pipe with cats for a California emission truck would be an easy $1000. I just needed the cuts repairs and found a local shop that welded things up and have me going in about an hour for $90.

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In that hour, I discover that there were 3 cars on site waiting for new cats and 2 more customers came in asking to have their stolen ones replaced. Talking to the shop owner, cat theft is good for 8~12 repairs a week for him right now.

A call to LAPD got me in the queue for a return call to file my incident. I am not holding my breath.
 

Jimmy

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Issue is the same in the Denver area. I know of one case where the vehicle had a Rockware cat skidplate on it and the thieves worked around it to get 'em out. I used to think a skidplate would provide enough deterrence but where there's a will, there's a way.
 

mrbieler

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I got very lucky. First, I confronted them and prevented the complete theft. Second, things may have ended badly as I was underarmed for a confrontation. Finally, the cut in front just missed the O2 sensor by about 1/4" inch. The muffler guy was able to notch out the inner sleeve to go around the sensor mount.

Also go lucky they didn't damage anything else. These guys are quick, not careful, when they cut.
 

Blue

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My daughter's Tacoma got hit a couple days before Christmas. Over $3000 repair at the dealer ($1000 insurance deductible).
 

Blue

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I found this online as a pretty cheap and easy deterrent - 3/8 or 1/2" hardened tool steel welded around the cats so the crack-heads have to cut through two pieces of tool steel to cut the cat. Would slow them down considerably, maybe enough to move on to the next truck. Also seen expanded metal used extending across the frame rails.

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discostew

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I think that means the price is up for converters. When you take those things to the scrap yard the price they give you is like a commodity, when the value is low our converters are safe.
 

JUKE179r

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A buddy of mine got hits cats stolen on his Volvo here in England. £1200($1627) in repairs. He paid £900 ($1220) total for the Volvo tho.
 

mrbieler

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With folks unemployed because of Covid and precious metals being worth more, this will only get worse not better.

On top of that law-enforcement is doing less and less to fight issue.
 

Blue

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Out here (and I imagine everywhere else too), it's all crack heads. Folks being unemployed probably has nothing to do with it (they weren't employed to begin with). They take the chopped cats to a shady junkyard/recycler and get about $100. Officially recyclers aren't supposed to accept them from crackhead Bob but most of them are shady as fuck.
 

discostew

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Out here (and I imagine everywhere else too), it's all crack heads. Folks being unemployed probably has nothing to do with it (they weren't employed to begin with). They take the chopped cats to a shady junkyard/recycler and get about $100. Officially recyclers aren't supposed to accept them from crackhead Bob but most of them are shady as fuck.
I agree. Most scrappers are just homeless crackheads. I say most, maybe someone out there is a stand up guy who makes his living like that. But all it takes is a little ambition and that crackhead will steal a sawzall and move this whole process along. When prices are up I think you could get closer to 300 for Land Rover cats. I forget what's in them but I think its rare.
 

rover rob

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I agree. Most scrappers are just homeless crackheads. I say most, maybe someone out there is a stand up guy who makes his living like that. But all it takes is a little ambition and that crackhead will steal a sawzall and move this whole process along. When prices are up I think you could get closer to 300 for Land Rover cats. I forget what's in them but I think its rare.
platinum and palladium.
 
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discostew

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I have seen some ingenious methods to protect them, including rebar cages.

I've heard that movie theatres are particularly popular for the thieves where I've been told they will wrap a rope or cable around a bunch of cats and drive off, ripping a whole row of cats off the vehicles.

Dirty bastards!
It's those fuckers again huh. They suck, they steel anything. They....who called them that anyway?
 

ERover82

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What a pain. Makes me appreciate living in an area where I've never felt the need to lock anything. Not that I don't, and there's always the 9mm backup plan.
 
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JohnB

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When prices were way up about 10 years ago these guys hit a police parking lot and got them all. That takes some kind of crank courage.
I've been out of the wrecking business for almost 8 years, and we were getting about $160 each for Rover and BMW catalytic convertors back then. I bet crank yards are only paying $25 each for them off the street. The actual licensed core buyers are the big buyers. They roll around with stacks of cash and ship them overseas in huge containers and are shady as fuck.
We even prosecuted a crank head stealing our stash. Caught him on video around 5am.
 
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pdxrovermech

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Just yesterday I had a customer catch three guys in broad daylight stealing the cats off his P38. They got one along with the O2 sensor. The other was seconds away from being completely cut too. Thankfully we had a good used y pipe laying around.
 
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ERover82

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I miss my weapons. The only Glock I can have now in England is my Glock knife and that is still illegal to carry here.

It's unfortunate that the very intent of self-defense, with any object, is essentially illegal there. Hopefully you're in one of the better areas.
 
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mrbieler

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Just yesterday I had a customer catch three guys in broad daylight stealing the cats off his P38. They got one along with the O2 sensor. The other was seconds away from being completely cut too. Thankfully we had a good used y pipe laying around.

Was just watching from someones home security camera of a guy stealing his cat off a Toyota pick up. Whole video was about 90 seconds including him slow driving past the truck to scope it out and backing his truck up next to the target. The guy was going slow the whole time. Went back to his truck to get something, etc. Broad daylight.

FWIW, LAPD has never gotten back to me. We're on our own taking care of this stuff.