Code scanner for SRS reset recommendation 1996 Discovery 1
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You can easily remove the bulbs. I just did one for a customer. I also learned the hard way how to do it cleanly without damaging anything (first attempt damaged the tach needle.)
I’m pretty close to having a T4 operational. Like you said most dealers are just giving up on getting one up and running. You probably need it a couple times a year.Its fun working on the change over years and I prefer the older stuff for sure. Before 1996 you had very little information and diagnostics. It was so primitive and limited but simple, then you get Gems and diagnostics got better and more fluid and you could look at live data in the ecm, still working with a simple system. When we got to bosch it was pretty good, not to complicated or over engineered. Data was more accesible from the tcm, ipack, srs.... But then we started to stray away, we had data and communication across all the modules but everything got harder to diagnose because the systems got more complicated. Step into the 5.0 era and good luck guys, here is a fault, theres a problem upstream but good luck figuring it out because we put to much carp on this thing.
Yah most of the dealers dont have, lost or failed all the T4 machines, they would totaly be museum pieces now anyways. Can you imagine standing there watching it boot up the hard divei get frustrated just trying to get my old rsw software connected.
Recently JLR has finally taken the old laptops out of service. Made everyone buy new FZ model toughbooks. But they really have no idea why stuff works or doesn’t work.
Here’s what I’ve learned thru the last 10 years or so. If you bought a laptop from JLR in 2015 it came loaded with 32 bit windows7. Then a few years later a forced update made the CF52 choke because the hard drive was no longer big enough to accept the download. So I went out and updated about 5 of them with solid state drives big enough to accept the new update. Then a few years after that I was doing that again and noticed I could select a windows10 version of the software. I started doing that and noticed the system was faster and didn’t glitch out as much. Fast forward to last month and SDD quit working and JLR instructed us to remove the last version of SDD and download the new version. But all the old laptops wouldn’t accept the latest version of SDD. When they switched us out to the new FZ model tough books they are running on 64 bit windows finally. There was a rep in the shop and he decided to get involved in our SDD problems. It was pretty funny when they figured out that the operating system was changed. I could hear someone on the other end of the phone freak out that we still had old tough books still running. They made the shop buy 5 new FZ units and said these old laptops won’t work anymore.
So long story short. I loaded a 64 bit version of windows, downloaded the latest version of SDD. The biggest problem was the fact that windows explorer is no more. I just have to go in settings and allow a couple local host sites to load in internet explorer. Every 30 days I have to allow them again.
I’m not sure I’ll tell them I got this shit working on the old laptops. They seem to be pretty miffed about me changing the shit around.
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Here’s what I’ve been using lately. This is what JLR told us was the solution and basically an android tablet that doesn’t have all the functionality of the real T4 but it’s gotten me thru a handful of cars. It did do this air bag light I caused on a P38. My boss bought this for like $2400 when it was first released. I’m warming up to it, but T4 in its real form is pretty solid. This not so much.
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I saw an entire T4 setup with the updated red VCM setup on ebay a while back for 2500.00 complete. I of coarse had just bought a project LR or I'd have bought it. It included the handheld, Panasonic/Dell Laptop, the VCM, all the cables, and manuals. Everything you needed.
If you look around online the older Lynx module which runs between your LR and a Windows based laptop can be had for 100-300. You can still download the software for the PC, but I'm not sure about acquiring the proper D1/D2/P38 licenses anymore so you'd have to find one with the proper license for your application.
If you look around online the older Lynx module which runs between your LR and a Windows based laptop can be had for 100-300. You can still download the software for the PC, but I'm not sure about acquiring the proper D1/D2/P38 licenses anymore so you'd have to find one with the proper license for your application.
“If you look around online the older Lynx module which runs between your LR and a Windows based laptop can be had for 100-300. You can still download the software for the PC, but I'm not sure about acquiring the proper D1/D2/P38 licenses anymore so you'd have to find one with the proper license for your application.”
If anyone runs across one of these, please let me know.
If anyone runs across one of these, please let me know.
What software are you going to download for the laptop? I’m not familiar with the Lynx system. I know that even with the correct interface hardware for T4 you still have to switch out connectors at the end of the main cable.
I would go look at Robert’s thread about reverse engineering a scan tool. It sounds like he’s pretty close to having it figured out. That tool I posted a pic of is an android tablet so probably pretty similar.
Are you sure that wasn’t WDS? We keep an old laptop for getting into old Jags. It uses the Red Ford VCI. T4 will have an interface box connected to the laptop with a LAN cable and a blue cable coming out of that. WDS came after T4 for Land Rover. Jag might have been using it during the T4 era.
The Lynx tool I’d prefer is the one that is a stand alone type. The newer ones use a blue tooth module and you download an app but it isn’t available in the US. I checked the App Store and sure enough it says exactly that. I believe there is an older one that is a standalone version that came between the windows version and the newest blue tooth app version.
However, and there was a guy selling one on this forum a year ago for $200, the one that seems the best choice here in the US is the iLAND V1.0. Atlantic British sells them now but I can’t bring myself to spend $1200 plus dollars to reset an SRS light. If I owned a shop and would use it somewhat regularly, that would be different. The guy selling it for $200 seemed to get no interest. I guess most people are not too concerned about the SRS light. I also have been having ABS issues but that resets itself. My cheapy scanner does everything else. So, I’d only really “need” it for the SRS reset. I’m guessing that is the status of most D1 people and why it is relatively uncommon to have one.
As far as the older Lynx that runs on windows, I have an old tough book that has windows 7 that I keep to program an old Holley Projection EFI system. Like the Holley software, I imagine the Lynx software was probably on a CD. I don’t know about being able to download it. Perhaps it is somewhere out there.
It is puzzling to me that it is so easy to get a relatively cheap scan tool for almost every other car made with OBD2 (including D2s) but with D1s in the US it is such a chore. It’s easy and cheap in almost all the rest of the world for D1s.
Just because a vehicle has the diagnostic connector doesn’t make it OBD2. The first year GM ran that connector it wasn’t OBD2.
The biggest difference is when all vehicles started using CAN networks. That made it much easier. Just one protocol and every module in the vehicle communicates the same way.
The biggest difference is when all vehicles started using CAN networks. That made it much easier. Just one protocol and every module in the vehicle communicates the same way.
The T4 that was Ebay a while back was a complete T4 setup. I should have grabbed it.
Yes the Britpart Lynx "legacy" you can still download the software for your Windows based Laptop. It's a great setup. My friend uses it all the time on D1's and besides the 10AS part which is buggy diagnostics and reading codes = is excellent on GEMS D1's.
I'll keep my eye out for one for ya
Yes the Britpart Lynx "legacy" you can still download the software for your Windows based Laptop. It's a great setup. My friend uses it all the time on D1's and besides the 10AS part which is buggy diagnostics and reading codes = is excellent on GEMS D1's.
I'll keep my eye out for one for ya