DI vs Defender

rover4x4

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You need a Td5 classic. I've driven DIs 110s 90s classics P38s MK3s blah blah. You wanna go places and be comfy get a SWB Classic. I've driven a 62 series on OME HDs it rode like a BMW.
 

varova87

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ptschram said:
While you're over there, can you go to Kampala and kick a guy in the teeth for me?

He sent me a check written on a tiny little church in Oklahoma. Bastard-telling me he was a good missionary writing bad checks on churches in OK.

Uganda has really pretty postage stamps!

I'd be happy to meet him and discuss on your behalf if you're serious about pursuing it.
 

varova87

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Alright, still doing my research over here and I've had several mechanics note the amount of problems the diesel motors in these things have. Their natural suggestion - buy a Land Cruiser. Getting a little old.

What gives? Is there not a reliable rover platform? I thought the diesels would prove to be less moody. Will poke around today and see which motor options are available.
 

Blueboy

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Do a search for 200tdi vs 300tdi and you will get an idea. Both engines have longevity if maintained which is true for a Rover in general anyhow. Have owned Disco 1, Def 90 and 110 w 300tdi, RR LWB. They all have there + and -. If you decent HVAC, go with the D1 although that in itself adds some complexity. If you are ok with windons down and frt flaps open for HVAC, go Defender. The A/C units in 110s barely function so even if equipped still open windows. All early Rovers will get you far enough off highway about the same. Key to any used Rover purchase is prior maintenance.
 

Tugela

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varova87 said:
Alright, still doing my research over here and I've had several mechanics note the amount of problems the diesel motors in these things have. Their natural suggestion - buy a Land Cruiser. Getting a little old.

What gives? Is there not a reliable rover platform? I thought the diesels would prove to be less moody. Will poke around today and see which motor options are available.

A major issue with diesel motor longevity in Africa is fuel quality. Unless you are in a major metropolitan center where highly refined fuel is readily available you usually get diesel with high sulfur (sorry, sulphur) content. This screws up high pressure injectors that are found on turbocharged diesel engines, especially the really new common-rail direct injections. Lots of people in South Africa, for example, are only getting 60,000km on a set of new injectors. In rural Uganda I'm guessing the diesel is fairly low grade.

The reason the 1HZ Cruiser engine lasts forever is that it is naturally aspirated and it can burn oil pumped straight from the ground. Plus it has higher displacement, I think it is 4 or 4.5 liters. The tradeoff is you have to rev it like crazy and you have to adjust your expectations on acceleration. It's like the old Landy bumper stickers: Land Cruiser, zero to sixty: same day. So yeah, get a Land Cruiser and put some OME leaf springs on it.
 

varova87

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Tugela said:
The reason the 1HZ Cruiser engine lasts forever is that it is naturally aspirated and it can burn oil pumped straight from the ground. Plus it has higher displacement, I think it is 4 or 4.5 liters. The tradeoff is you have to rev it like crazy and you have to adjust your expectations on acceleration.

Good information, thanks. Yes, the 1HZ is a monster of an engine. Acceleration on this thing makes a disco seem like an STI, but the fuel economy is incredible and I haven't had a single problem with the motor.

The steering, on the other hand, is a disaster. There are rods and bushings scattered all over our yard at the moment. These roads are brutal on steering components.
 
Tugela said:
The reason the 1HZ Cruiser engine lasts forever is that it is naturally aspirated and it can burn oil pumped straight from the ground.

Land Rover MOD 2.25s came with tuning instructions for "dieselene". I ran my old 109 on used parts washer solvent mixed with stale gasoline. It still returned 15 MPG at worst on gas that wouldn't burn in anything else along with nasty diesel that had been in the parts washer God knows how long.

Granted fuel filters got blinded pretty quickly though.
 

knewsom

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Arent' there diesel additives that will bind to the sulfur and keep it from jacking up your injectors, and help your truck run smoother too? I seem to remember there being such a thing that we now add to all our non-farm diesel in the US now. Perhaps you could purchase some of this and bring it with to keep the injectors happy?