Did the dealer sell me a "special" on codes?

paxton

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The story...

I was losing coolant. Just a little bit. I could just barely smell it when I got out of the truck. It was a slow drain and it never overheated.

Then, in early January, something let go, and my coolant drained out I steamed up the parking lot. I had just arrived at work and during lunch I took it over to the dealer, a couple miles away.

The dealership told me it was a bad intake manifold gasket. It would cost $1600 to repair. I thought about all the other comments about head gaskets (I'm at 85000 miles) and asked if they could do those too, since the labor cost was about the same. Sure, they said. Total out the door was $2200.

I finally got my truck back a couple of weeks ago. I'm about a quarter mile away and I hear a nice squeal and see steam. I took it back. They said I needed to have the radiator repaired since the system now had correct pressure and it must've found a weak spot. They said they'd eat the cost. So all was okay.

I got the truck back, and everything seemed okay. The reservoir was low, but they said it was just a burp. The dealership has a 1 year warranty on the work they did.

Tonight, I'm leaving work and it stumbles a little after I cranked it. I get 1300, 0305, and 0307. Related? Am I screwed? Did I waste all that money. Can I shoot my truck?

Thanks for any heads up (no pun intended).
 

KyleT

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did they do new plugs and wires? prob not and normally when you take the OEM ones off after a few years and many miles, they crack and break on the inside and will cause misfires.

im very suprised they ate the radiator cost. thats good.
 

paxton

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I found the invoice. It was the upper intake gasket, not manifold gasket. They replaced the upper intake gaskets and the head gaskets.

They did not replace the plugs and wires.
 

Tenkots

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I just had nearly the same codes on my D2 - I had 0307 and 1300. 0305 and 0307 means a misfire in cylinders 5 and 7, both on the driver's side (1300 is simply random misfire). I know that #7 cylinder uses the the driver side coil pack (each pack has 4 wires) and I'm pretty sure that #5 uses the passenger side pack. That would lead me to believe that it is not a faulty coil pack like I had, but more likely bad ignition wires. I just did the coil pack/wires job and I can tell you my hands are still sore from the four or five hours it took to get to them. Having the manifold off was the time to do the wires - much easier.

Maybe they'll eat this one too...
 
and I'll bet not only did they not machine the heads, I'll bet they didn't even send them out to be measured, and I'm certain they destroyed the mating surfaces by using a scotch-brite pad on the mating surfaces.

It is highway robbery that they charge so much and do half the job.

Given the five/seven misfires, I'd be concerned about the head gasket...
 

jymmiejamz

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ptschram said:
Given the five/seven misfires, I'd be concerned about the head gasket...


I'd bet its bad wires. Head gaskets wouldn't cause a mis on #5 unless it was leaking combustion gases badly externally.
 

Dexlen

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Ok, old thread but I'm searching 0305 error code and this came up.

I posted THIS
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SO,
2000 D2, new plugs wires (Kingsbourne), hoses, tstat (upgraded to new bleed screw setup).

Still getting a consistent 0305 misfire (Cyl 5 flashing occasionally)

Plug smells like oil/fuel

Seems to be leaking Valve cover on driver's side and there is some sort of leak under the radiator.. can't tell if its oil or coolant. Both fluids need to be added every couple of weeks.

No overheating issues, mileage and power are ok, light white smoke, no other codes. I've reset the code a couple of times and it immediately comes back.

Started after a little trip through the woods with my club that included a small bout of water up over the hood...

Just trying to get some advice on what to try next.... planning VC gaskets. Should I be thinking intake/valley pan gasket as well? Appreciate your input.
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on another board and a well known LR service manager told me it was HG.

In this post your saying a 5th cylinder misfire isn't usually from HG and I'd like to know if that's the case before I start printing out directions and pictures and buy the parts. ANY Input is appreciated, but if it is actually helpful, that would be even better :)
 

stocksuspension

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Dexlen said:
Ok, old thread but I'm searching 0305 error code and this came up.

I posted THIS
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SO,
2000 D2, new plugs wires (Kingsbourne), hoses, tstat (upgraded to new bleed screw setup).

Still getting a consistent 0305 misfire (Cyl 5 flashing occasionally)

Plug smells like oil/fuel

Seems to be leaking Valve cover on driver's side and there is some sort of leak under the radiator.. can't tell if its oil or coolant. Both fluids need to be added every couple of weeks.

No overheating issues, mileage and power are ok, light white smoke, no other codes. I've reset the code a couple of times and it immediately comes back.

Started after a little trip through the woods with my club that included a small bout of water up over the hood...

Just trying to get some advice on what to try next.... planning VC gaskets. Should I be thinking intake/valley pan gasket as well? Appreciate your input.
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on another board and a well known LR service manager told me it was HG.

In this post your saying a 5th cylinder misfire isn't usually from HG and I'd like to know if that's the case before I start printing out directions and pictures and buy the parts. ANY Input is appreciated, but if it is actually helpful, that would be even better :)

number 7 cylinder is on the end of the block next to the water jacket. number 5 is in the middle so there is a possibility the block/liner could be bad. you might wanna check it out the injectors, remove the upper plenum snd swap the number 5 cylinder injector with one from the other bank. could also be a flat cam. theres too many variables. is the top hose rock hard when at operating temp?
 

Dexlen

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I've only had them on cylinder five. No other cylinders or ran random misfire codes
 

paxton

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Meant to update this. I had to get the coils replaced, or so they said.

The dealership has more of my money than Will Tillery. And that's hard to do...

I have to admit, everything since has been great, and the only code I've seen since was for the misleading gear ratio transmission fault. Of course Will Tillery sold me a MAF and that code hasn't reappeared since.
 

discostew

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If you paid for a headgasket replacement then the upper intake should have been included in that repair. The heads should have been sent out and plained because I have not seen a straight set of heads in years. If you need plug wires now its a shame they werent replaced when the heads were off the truck. If the misfires are due to stuck valves you should drag the guy behind your truck for a while.
 
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paxton

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Yeah, the service department is really good at the passive agressive stuff.

Of course, when they did the coils they replaced the wires and plugs. So there's that....