I've read and heard maybe the price curve on some of these Discos is on the way up. Not sure how nice a Disco would have to be to fetch 10 grand.
I've built a hand full of trucks like this and usually end up with right around 8 grand in them and nobody willing to spend that much. People might be getting interested but I'm not sure the price is moving yet.
This is why I thought it was silly to think about a $45,000 Disco with the wrong shit hacked into it. No more a NEW Disco than the ones any of us are driving or building now. If the price curve acts anything like it did with say Chevy, then there are lessons learned on how to play it. Special editions will be worth more. Anything that makes one of them significant. Like my neighbor has made a career out of selling chevy restorations and parts for restorations. He would find a car someplace and know enough about vin #s and the history of those cars to identify the real valuable shit. Like he found a Yanko Chevelle that he knew had to be a real early one. Come to find out it was Yanko Chevel #1 still had paper work showing it was Don Yanko's daily driver. Sold that car for crazy money fully restored. So I think a Camel Vehicle or a Trek vehicle would be good candidates.
Damn Stew, I got your panties in such a bundle that you started a thread about price curves with a goal to seemingly disprove my estimated value numbers. Bravo.
What have you built for $8000 that lacks interest needed to bring you to the point of completing a sale at a profit? You accuse me of being a tool who believes I have the auto business figured out, yet here you are stating you can't bring the value add factor into what you build. Is it because your marketing of said money losing builds have poor usage of your and you're?
There are 2 price curves. One for the rare and special limited edition type vehicles that you mention, and another for resto-mod vehicles. A matching numbers Mustang, Challenger, or Camaro will certainly bring the most at the auction block, yet a similar vintage vehicle with dissimilar numbers built with a factory and period correct restoration will bring great money as well. A resto-mod done well, using tasteful design and engineering adaptations will often bring similar money as the car with dissimilar numbers.
The price curves are dependent on scarcity of supply. When you factor in the value of nostalgia and allow that variable to naturally or artificially grow you'll build demand quicker. Everyone wants what they can't easily have, so if supply becomes increasingly constrained demand tends to accelerate and compound regardless of whether scarcity of supply is natural or artificially caused.
Ask your Chevelle buddy what happened to the price curves when supply of virgin iron dried up. Then ask what happened when the supply of everything else dried up. There was a time when a half rotted vintage muscle car was worth scrap weight. Those days are long gone. When that market took off a vehicle that used to be obtainable for a blue collar man to restore in his garage began being bought up by industry men to break, crate, and inventory for resale to a whole new market of wealthier buyers.
The American muscle car market is a prime example of early players capitalizing on watching the pricing curves and using their capital to further their profits by creating supply constraints. They saw that nostalgia created a demand that naturally increased when they reduced supply artificially. That market was made, thats where the term Market Maker comes from. Rather than letting the muscle cars go through the motions of your average vehicle the industry players hoarded supply and marketed its new found scarcity while appealing to the emotion of nostalgia.
This same analytical approach can most likely be applied to the D1 and RRC supply as has already been in play with NAS Defenders. I do not know where we are on the curve at this current time, but I see variables at play that will probably cause it to follow a similar pattern to the above mentioned vintage muscle car market.
All in all, you're basing your argument off of poor analytic theory from the start. There are 2 curves. Just like there is your and you're. Not everything is singular, except maybe your inability to profit off of vehicles you build. You're wrong, your logic is flawed.
Camel Trophy originals with great papers belong in the matching numbers curve, all of the rest goes into the driven collectables curve. Just like there is You're and Your, there are also 2 curves. Some markets have even more than 2 curves, multiple curves for the same core concept. Kind of like There, Their, They're. Look to your there's and find your answers, Stew. :rofl: