From Patrol to Armada, it lost descent control, locking rear differential, and surface selector that optimizes the suspension and gearing for sand, snow, or rock.
Disco 5: Let the depression set in
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Word. And the Rover has the knob that still optimizes for those terrains. Is it worth the extra cash? The average buyer doesn't ever use the knob.
Y61 Patrol to Y62 Patrol is apples to oranges, yea, but the Y62 is a really nice truck for the price. The Pathfinder Armada was a Titan underneath.
Yup. Would be a much better LC200 and RR competitor with all that intact in the US.
I don't see how LR3 owners are upset at the Discovery 5. The LR3 is one of the most boring Land Rovers in my opinion. A Freelander may be the worst, but it least it looks like it could be an amphibious vehicle.
I think the new Disco will be better than the current LR4 since (I think) it will have the option of at least one diesel, and the diesels I've driven are pretty awesome.
I think the new Disco will be better than the current LR4 since (I think) it will have the option of at least one diesel, and the diesels I've driven are pretty awesome.
Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon is right around $45K.
So, for pretty much the same money, I can have either a DiscovEvokeSport or a Rubi.
Which one will actually work, and not leave my wife (or worse, my daughter) stranded somewhere?
Which one, when it needs repair, will not have parts prices that are utterly insane?
Which one does not look like a Kia?
It's obvious what the next new vehicle at our house will be.
This?
Have you ever seen the convertible version of this?
looks like a bathtub.
Maybe it would look better if they took it out of the box.
I guess it will [never] be a new Grand Wagoneer. But it cracks me up that whoever photoshopped this thing couldn't even find a source photo with Kaiser grille at a proper angle - look what happened to the Kaiser roundel.
The D5 may look like a Kia but the Jeep looks like a child's tin and plastic toy "truck".
The Jeep!
As for that other contraption, with the way the back end of it looks it might be a Durangoneer or Wagonango.
I know this is totally anecdotal, but my mom has had two Jeep Grand Cherokees that she bought new, and two Range Rovers she bought used. She has never been stranded in the Range Rovers and has not done many repairs. The Jeeps, on the other hand, were constantly in the shop and more than once arrived on a tow truck.
I'm on board with anecdotal data.
We had a (used) 95 GC & have a (used) 01 GC.
Sold the 95 GC, got (used) 2000 RR.
Added (used) 05 RR for son.
Added (new) 13 Patriot for daughter.
Sold (junked) the 00 RR when it became uneconomical to continue to add money to it.
Air suspension rebuilds, air springs, radiator, u-joints, etc.
Added (used) 12 Liberty, gave that to son, I drive 05 RR.
95 GC never had any problems.
01 GC just replaced electric radiator fan relay, that's the first "problem" with that vehicle, currently 125K miles.
New transmissions put in Patriot & Liberty, both under warranty. No explanation from dealer as to cause of failure. Both fine now.
05 RR is getting a bit sketchy at 165K miles.
Replaced radiator, alternator, coolant reservoir when it split open, transmission is beginning to act up, still on original air springs!
CD player failed; not fixed, don't care.
Steering wheel motor failed; not fixed, don't care.
A handful of little nagging things that I'm not worried about.
We'll dump the RR for Wrangler.
Dollars per mile, the Rovers aren't "much" more expensive than the Grand Cherokee.
Consistent reliability win goes to Jeep, based on MY experience.
If I get stuck, I can deal.
My wife & kids, not so much.
Obviously, they can call AAA or me.
But I'd rather they didn't have to worry about their daily drivers, especially since my daughter is 1200 miles away at school.
Granted, LR has improved their vehicles over the years; the difference between the 00 RR and the 05 RR is HUGE.
Maybe as a non-daily driver, I'll consider another LR.
I don't have the space, time or money for a "trophy truck".
Probably only another RR, though. And used, of course.
The other models in the line just don't appeal to me at all.
Even the difference between an '05 and '06 RR is huge in terms of reliability. My mom never had many issues with her '05, but sold it when it had around 115k miles to buy an '06. She just had an air spring fail last week.
06 is the bastard year. Better than an 05 by a million miles. But lots of software glitches that make for lots of issues. If I had a choice I would prefer an 07.
The one thing that bugs me about all of those is the interior finishing. It's like everything that wasn't wood or leather just got dusted with Krylon at the factory. After a few years, it starts to look like a G.I. Joe action figure that's seen one too many fist fights with a Ninja Turtle.
Cheers,
Kennith