Duluth Firehose pants
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Why, because it makes sense?
In southern and equatorial climates, you'll be hard pressed to find someone decked out all day in double-layer tin cloth or anything similar when they're slinging a chainsaw around all day; especially if they are topside.
Any pants are suitable, so long as they provide good mobility, and are stiff enough to avoid snagging or worse, tangling. Such pants are more than fine for everyday use. If you are very worried, or have no choice, buy some chaps.
No pants are meant to replace proper safety equipment.
Buying double-layer pants specifically for your job and calling it a day is no different than wearing a thick wool hat in an underground mine, simply because your baseball cap won't stop a rock.
Every day, until I hit the rack, I wear the same uniform:
1: Wool socks (I prefer Wigwam)
2: Appropriate underwear (one area where you need more than one kind)
3: A Black T shirt (Hanes Beefy T)
4: Outdoor/utility style pants (Looks like I'm going to be using Firehose pants for a while)
5: A pocketed, long sleeve, button up over-shirt (Filson, Tilley, or similar)
6: A custom 1.5" wide, 3/16" thick bridle leather belt with a square center post buckle
7: Versatile leather boots (I only own two pairs of footwear for utility and everyday use)
Aside from undergarments, which I have more of, I generally keep five of each article of clothing, in various muted earth-tone colors. This way, I've got enough to change clothes every day for the better part of a week, and wear worn out shit when I'm washing it.
The muted colors mean no matter what I wear, nothing clashes. I always look good, even if I'm in a particularly disheveled state, or haven't put any effort into dressing myself that day.
Now, the key to it all is the over-shirt. There's no sense buying one with short sleeves. It's less shirt for the same money, and not as versatile (the same goes for pants, unless you swim for a living). With a long sleeve over-shirt, numerous effects can be created. One can tuck it in and button it all the way up, and get away with a plain tie (though I don't wear ties).
It can be only partially buttoned and tucked in, with the sleeves rolled up or down. Likewise, one can leave it entirely open, or use only two buttons in a rather jaunty manner with the sleeves rolled up (my personal favorite).
With five such shirts in different colors, one can dress for nearly any occasion. With long sleeves, they can be rolled down in cold weather and up in warm weather. You're good until about 105 degrees before the drawbacks overcome the benefits, and depending upon the shirt, you're generally okay down to 40 degrees if it's not windy before a jacket is required.
That's a 65 degree temperature swing and all but two specialist events covered, with the same uniform.
You can push it to an 80 degree swing with nothing but a pant roll and moving the over-shirt to your head. Anything below 40 degrees is handled by one of the two coats you require.
So, in response to your comment, I'd suggest that anyone who doesn't dress in the same manner hasn't put much thought into efficiency, or is simply too fucking stupid to reach the same conclusion.
Cheers,
Kennith
I often wonder the same thing, because most of the Rover owners I've met are quite large. That's not as bad as the giant friend I've got that drives an XJS, but it's the same principal.
Cheers,
Kennith
Considering that if you used a chainsaw for a living and worked for a cooperation regulated by OSHA, then yes you would.
https://www.osha.gov/Publications/3269-10N-05-english-06-27-2007.html
Sure, "any" pants are "suitable".
You mean like these?
http://blog.duluthtrading.com/lucky-sob-stihl-chainsaw-vs-fire-hose-work-pants/
Exactly. That's why you wear PPE's that are designed for the job you're doing, just like I said.
So you pick-and-choose your underwear for the job you're doing, but you have universal pants and shoes for everyday use?
Do you live in a cave or something? Some place where the temperature remains the same daily and gets no perception? Five shirts and five pairs of pants does not cut it. It just does not add up for the regular guy. Can you make it work? Sure. I would bet most reasonable people can't make that work. Yet, sadly, I've seen your type before. I thought I'd never see the day when someone wore a Hooters t-shirt to a funeral. Equally, I thought I'd never see a Big Johnson t-shirt, shorts, and boots at a funeral. Like I said, I've seen your type before.
Whether you wear them daily or not, every guy should have at least one pair of slacks, one suit, and some denim jeans. If you do specific work, such as carpentry, turning wrenches, or if you're first responder you'd probably have some other form of clothing as well.
Same with shirts. Every guy should have a dress shirt, some collared shirts, t-shirts, and some sort of long-sleeve shirts. But again, depending on the work you do you may have other shirts in addition to these basics. A machinist is not going to get away with wearing a dress shirt and long tie, and a lawyer is not going to wear a blue Dickie shirt.
Oh lord, Kennith is going to give us fashion tips now?
What if you were a vet or a doctor? These folks work for a living. I would certainly call working as a vet or doctor real work. Their slip-on shirts or coats can be short-sleeve, right? Why should they be forced to wear long-sleeve? They get changed out regularly if they become soiled, so they probably need more then one with them as well. Or how about a dentist? Should a dentist come to work in leather boots, fire hose pants and a long-sleeve muted shirt?
I think most normal folks would just wear a coat/jacket.
Again, depending on the work you do you may need more than two coats. Every guy should have a heavy coat, a light jacket, and a blue sports coat. If you do any specialty work or if you go hunting you would want other options.
You got the fucking stupid part right.
These opinions all sound very central-to-northern-mainland-centric.
Someone who lived in Hawaii would think you both sound a bit ridiculous.
Someone who lived in Hawaii would think you both sound a bit ridiculous.
Or is married and has a real job. Although my wife does not care what I wear around the house or when hanging out. She definitely would not approve of me wearing my utility pants and dickies shirt when going out to dinner. If I dressed like that to work I would probably end up looking for a new job very quickly. Not to mention if I ever showed up at a clients location dressed in that manner.
Unfortunately not everyone has family money to fall back on and can afford to live a do as you like life style. Some of us actually "have" to work for a living. But whatever works for you.
I doubt it. Clothing is tailored to the job you do. A bartender in Hawaii may wear something totally different than a bartender in New York, sure. But when it comes to a specific job within a trade, they typically all wear the same type clothing. I doubt you see a HVAC guy in Hawaii wearing a Hawaiian shirt with coconut buttons, cargo shorts and flip-flops.
Considering that if you used a chainsaw for a living and worked for a cooperation regulated by OSHA, then yes you would.
https://www.osha.gov/Publications/3269-10N-05-english-06-27-2007.html
Sure, "any" pants are "suitable".
You mean like these?
http://blog.duluthtrading.com/lucky-sob-stihl-chainsaw-vs-fire-hose-work-pants/
Exactly. That's why you wear PPE's that are designed for the job you're doing, just like I said.
So you pick-and-choose your underwear for the job you're doing, but you have universal pants and shoes for everyday use?
Do you live in a cave or something? Some place where the temperature remains the same daily and gets no perception? Five shirts and five pairs of pants does not cut it. It just does not add up for the regular guy. Can you make it work? Sure. I would bet most reasonable people can't make that work. Yet, sadly, I've seen your type before. I thought I'd never see the day when someone wore a Hooters t-shirt to a funeral. Equally, I thought I'd never see a Big Johnson t-shirt, shorts, and boots at a funeral. Like I said, I've seen your type before.
Whether you wear them daily or not, every guy should have at least one pair of slacks, one suit, and some denim jeans. If you do specific work, such as carpentry, turning wrenches, or if you're first responder you'd probably have some other form of clothing as well.
Same with shirts. Every guy should have a dress shirt, some collared shirts, t-shirts, and some sort of long-sleeve shirts. But again, depending on the work you do you may have other shirts in addition to these basics. A machinist is not going to get away with wearing a dress shirt and long tie, and a lawyer is not going to wear a blue Dickie shirt.
Oh lord, Kennith is going to give us fashion tips now?
What if you were a vet or a doctor? These folks work for a living. I would certainly call working as a vet or doctor real work. Their slip-on shirts or coats can be short-sleeve, right? Why should they be forced to wear long-sleeve? They get changed out regularly if they become soiled, so they probably need more then one with them as well. Or how about a dentist? Should a dentist come to work in leather boots, fire hose pants and a long-sleeve muted shirt?
I think most normal folks would just wear a coat/jacket.
Again, depending on the work you do you may need more than two coats. Every guy should have a heavy coat, a light jacket, and a blue sports coat. If you do any specialty work or if you go hunting you would want other options.
You got the fucking stupid part right.
...Because every logger under the sun works in an environment adhering to every aspect of OSHA regulations.
I've got news, man: Quite a few don't. Get your nose out of Google's ass.
Don't try to shock me, either. That's a very old trick. I've seen logging and mining accidents, and some of them can get pretty nasty. Chainsaws aren't the biggest dangers out there, but chaps are convenient and more than capable of preventing most injuries related to them.
Doctors/vets/dentists pretty much have a uniform. If they don't all look the same, their customers become nervous.
Oh, and you've met people like me?
You are mistaken. You've never met a soul even remotely like me, I can assure you of that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
You've met people like those you described. Indeed, you used to stare at one in the damned mirror every day until the morning you woke up, saw the light, and experienced your magical transformation into whatever faux unicorn you think you are now.
I think I was quite clear when I noted that a suit of some variety might be required.
There is a section of my closet that is so equipped, and very likely well beyond any imagined station to which you fancy yourself belonging. The only "off the rack" jacket in there is a Brooks Brothers Golden Fleece sport coat.
You read too many magazines, man. You've lost yourself in this yuppie bubble you love so much.
My contention that one clothing concept can serve you everywhere between mag pouches and pocket squares remains solid. That was my point, and it hasn't changed.
Fashion tips?
A tip isn't enough for you. You need the whole damned shaft.
Cheers,
Kennith
Im not talking about clothing regarding occupations that have a general "uniform".
I was referring to these statements:
You can't get around regulations, man. If you have to wear a certain thing to work, or your wife wants you to wear a certain thing, so be it. Nothing else is acceptable. Rules are rules.
I work my tail off, just not in a 9-5 job. I'm self-employed, and have done many, many jobs in various fields. Who you think I may be and who I actually am are two different things entirely. That mistake has been made before.
I may have a few nice things, but I still live in a steel box right beside an iron working shop; and the quarters I've allotted myself amount to about 850 square feet. The rest is full of cat and business.
The only thing I've got to fall on is my ass.
Cheers,
Kennith
You seem to get what I'm on about. He doesn't.
Someone who lives in Hawaii will have his own idea of efficiency. Not perfection, mind you; efficiency. I've never been to Hawaii, but there will be a certain fabric or cut that works very well in most situations. Get as close as you can to that, and you're good to go.
You work it all around what you need. If you are required to wear slacks, that's fine. Buy slacks that are stain resistant and durable, as well as capable of handling most of the weather you will endure.
If you have to wear a white shirt, just get a solid white shirt that will last a long time, and make sure it fits. Few people wear white shirts that fit.
My primary requirement is different than someone who works in an office, but the sense behind what I buy isn't. They will lean toward more traditional clothing, because they have no choice in the matter.
In the end, no matter where you live, people buy too much shit. It costs too much money, encourages overseas production, demands more frequent re-purchases, and makes planning and packing more difficult. That's my gripe.
Cheers,
Kennith
It does not matter if it's a regulation to wear PPE's or not, Kennith. It's just a simple fact that wearing shorts or jeans while using a chainsaw is not a great idea. Do people do it? Sure! Have I done it? Sure! But does that make it a great idea? In your world, perhaps. Like I said, I've met people like you before.
Oh I stand by that. A pair of tan slacks, a blue jacket and a white shirt will get you though just about any special event. It's just at home at a dinner party as it is at a funeral or wedding. If you were going to own one pair of slacks and one sports coat, you can't go wrong with this combo. Other colors work just fine as well, obviously, but blue and tan, IMO, just works for a wide verity of special events.
My best suits and jackets come from overseas. America has very little that can compete with a tailored suit from England. Although my Southwick jackets are pretty damn nice.