First project on the DII

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Found a pair, from a '96. Locked and complete with all suspension parts, steering stuff, sensors, wiring, switch, etc. $1800.
Will see if I can make the logistics work next week.

Martin
 
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leftlanetruckin said:
Mongo, here is my thinking, is it flawed or sound?
By the time I regear and lock the Rover axles, plus upgraded axle shafts, it comes to @$4500 by quick reckoning on Lucky8's site. Save a bit by not going selectable lockers, but comparing like for like, and all they list are ARB's.
Been offered a set of 80 axles for $2500 (too high IMHO) with 4.10's, lockers and full float rear.
Are the 80 axles not enough stock, to handle wheeling on 35's with a careful driver? So no upgrades required off the bat.
Not being a smartass by any means, just conveying my thinking on the matter.

Thanks for your time.

Martin
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One of our original training trucks from 1999 (1997 FZJ80) has been running stock axles (with factory e-lockers) and 35s for 15 years. Besides being an amazingly reliable truck (even after a hard roll), I can't remember it ever breaking an axle, but I've only been around that truck that past 8-9 years. It's been driven carefully as much as it can by students, but it has logged a lot of miles at the CT course and all over the north east/Canada. We do run Longfields in quite of few of the trucks though.

A half way decent driver shouldn't have to get aggressive (wheel spin) with a capable truck like this 80 we have, thus significantly reducing the risk of breakage.
 
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Undecided on the suspension setup at this time. I may just throw them under there and make some brackets for the radius arms for now. My old Heep had Clayton long arms, and they worked fantastic, so may even go with something like that. It's starting to come into our busy season, so it may be a while. It's driveable now though, and that is the main thing.
I've never messed with 4 link stuff before, so will have to do some homework if I go that route.

Martin
 
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Don't waste your time with this unless your linking the suspension... Just buy the HD Land Rover stuff...
 
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I've committed to buy, so will try to pick it up this coming week.
I dont see how its a bad call, when just the axle shafts alone are over $1500. But maybe I'll figure it out.
I've sunk money into stock axles before, to the point where I HAD to keep them regardless, and am hesitant at going down the same road again. Suspension mounts etc I can make, long radius arms (like the Clyton stuff) I can make if I go that route, the electronic gizmo to alter the speedo pulses from the ABS sensors, I have somewhere IIRC, and so on. I'll give it a shot, and if I eat humble pie, I'll be the first to admit it.

Martin
 
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This is some funny shit...you can't compare any modification done to a jeeps suspension to a axle swap on a Land Rover...Illl go back to my comments on pirate where you didn't even know what transfer case you have on the truck but now you have the knowledge to do a axle swap...
Going full on DWEB here...you are fucking clueless

You're not Canadian by any chance are you...
 
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I'll be fucking clueless then I guess. Always that pissed off when folks dont do as you say, or am I your "victim" of the day? Either way, internet fights are always retarded in my book, more so when it's someone else's money and time..... Oh well.
Done axle swaps before, and the principals are the same regardless of brand of vehicle. Semi trucks, rally cars, wheeling rigs. It's the same shit in my experience.
I have a LSx and 4L60E in a P38, so if I can figure that out, I'm kinda sure the axle swap will work out OK.
And nope, not Canadian by a long shot. East coast, but very very East coast....
Yep, I'll freely ask for advise and opinions, and did indeed have some reading to do when I first got the rig, but until someone else pays my bills, I figure it's my call and mine alone.
Thanked you for your replies before, and I'll do it again for the first one of the day. If you want to make me your whipping boy though, it isnt gonna work. Long past those days, sorry.
Never understood the whole internet tough guy shit. 99.99% we'll never meet or do any kind of business together, so fail to see the point. Maybe 20 or so years ago, but not anymore.

Martin
 
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Blah, blah, blah...building a buggy with a built lq4-4l80e-lt230(the t-case you have but didn't know) and a under drive...went from jeeps to land rovers...
Feel free, piss time and money away swapping axles onto the stockish suspension and jack off thinking you've made it better...
Bring it to Moab, we'll show you with built trucks on nothing more than 33's that will your axle swapped POS on a stockish suspension has been nothing more than a waste of time and money


Yep, another fucking genius re-inventing the wheel for the millionth time thinking they can make chicken shit into chicken salad. I have tried probably every mod for a D2 ever built or attempted. Some worked, some didn't so don't take this personally but good fucking luck...

Oh, yeah, came from upstate New York...so I totally understand east coast wheeling
 
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Feel better?
The suspension wont be "stockish". But if it was, am I bragging in anyway about what it will or wont do? Nope.
I build stuff to not break, not to try to prove myself to anyone besides the wife and kids. Too old for that.
If I put the stock wheels and tires on it, and left it unlifted, its still an upgrade for the lockers, gearing and strength vs stock axles. The super dooper shit for the Rover axles is going to be @$4500. Just for axles. No driveshafts etc in that. I can guaranatee I wont have near that in the 80 axles.
And like I tried to say before, my time at home is indeed totally free. No value at all, cost wise. I work away, then I head home for a few weeks. Empty house during the day, besides dogs. Other stuff is sorted, so it is indeed free.
I am not out to impress anyone on any trail, and never said I was, so still not sure why you are getting the blood pressure up.
If it doesn't work out, it's my time and money. If it does, then same again.
 
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Careless...day one from you has been the typical "I can do it better" blah, blah, blah

Wheel is round, has been for a long time...there is absolutely nothing you've done from motor swaps to truck builds that is new or exciting. I alway love when fucktards like you post up saying I have all the time and tools to make a better wheel and a t's cheaper than using common sense...when in the end if you just built upon the existing platform, you'd save time and money and look like less of a fool

Yep...careless and you must be French canadian
 
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D2…it has trailing arms and a watts linkage…kyle did you ditch the watts (can't remember)
 
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Devildog01 said:
Whatever you do just take lot's of pics. Always cool to see shit being fabbed.
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Will do.
Sat in Wi sitting out the storm at the moment...., They didnt get the memo that winter is over apparently.
Couldn't pick up the axles as the roads are shit and my pilot cars pickup is 2wd.....:smilelol:

Martin
 
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