Front Driveshaft situation

Figman

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Hello friends
Here is another crazy situation with my Truck; DII ?01 SE7, ACE, SLS with 78K miles.
I asked my indi guy (which I trust very much) to rebuild the front drive shaft for the reasons that we all know, I printed this great write up that someone put on the Internet with all parts and procedures to follow. One of my guy mechanics did not follow any of my suggestions and proceed to rebuild the shaft with greaseable u-joins I believe from a Range Rover but did not replace the ball centering kit.
They test drove the truck but when I picked it up on my way back to work about 12 miles away I started to hear this clicking noise and I barely made it up the hill by my job. Worried I drove the truck on the parking lot and on every turn the noise (clicking) was stronger and I can barely pick up speed. Somehow I drove very slow and eventually made it to back to the shop. Obviously something came loose inside the double cardan in the rear of the shaft. My guy installed a loaner shaft while mine was rebuilt and have been driving for quite some time without a problem until this past weekend.
Once again they put back my original drive shaft with the new u-joins but they took the centering kit from the loaner driveshaft. Here is my dilemma, I don?t know if my mind is playing games with my head but after the initial incident I have been very nervous about this whole situation. I could swear that when my truck reaches 50MPH I hear this ?growling? noise, there is no vibration and no hesitation except for the noise between 50-65MPH; above that speed kind of goes away or maybe I cannot hear it. Everything seems to be fine; the only other factor that changed is that my Nitto tires were rotated after 10K, but not the usual rotation of rear to front on each side but rear to front across. I don?t know friends, I trust my guy and his team; they have always been there for me on every occasion. This whole thing is driving me nuts so much that I am ready to order me a Tom Woods driveshaft.
What should I do? As always thanks for your responses.
Figman
 

91 PBP 5079

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I hate to say this but I would not pay them. They have waisted your time for not putting a new ball kit in it when they had it apart. Ask them if they are going to buy you a trany when that thing blows up and knocks a hole in it.
Tom Woods would not waist your time or money that way.
 

mbrummal

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91 PBP 5079 said:
Tom Woods would not waist your time or money that way.
Very True. I had a problem with mine vibrating and they sent me another one to replace it. Now i need to replace the u-joints in it and they will even replace them if I send it in for the same $65 for the u-joints if I install them. Very nice to work with and answered every question I had.
 

ruca

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Figman said:
What should I do? As always thanks for your responses.
Figman

I would take the D/S and beat the crap out of the mechanic with it and then buy one from Tom Woods, or get it rebuilt by someone that knows what they r doing
 

Mike26

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maybe one of the needle bearing fell out of the ball centering bearing. those needle bearings are a b!tch! I just rebuilt mine, took about 4 hours...
 

Agent

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I'd have the shop redo the whole thing. U-joints, center ball and all. If that didn't fix the issue I'd see if they'd buy me a new shaft. It would be one thing if you took them a saft that was damaged from worn out U-joints, but there isn't much excuse for screwing up a good shaft while simply replacing joints.
 

Figman

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In your opinion which kit should I buy the Precision 344s; 617 or the Naepco kit, any preference?

I am so nervous about this whole thing that even if the RR u-joins that they installed are ok I still want to replace them. The only problem is that u-join were very expensive. Keep you posted

Thanks all
 

Mike26

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I used the Naepco Kit, can't remember the exact parts number. but they have the greese nipple on the end cap, makes it a lot easier to grease
 

roverMc

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Once you get the shaft out, you should be able to tell which joint is the problem. Move joint around and feel for some vibration like it's scrubbing.
 

Figman

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Westchester County, NY
I cannot believe my luck!!!
So I spoke with my guy and told him I wasn't happy with the driveshaft and that there was something wrong with it. As always he said bring it back and we will fix it. So I figure let me not drive the truck and bring it on Monday. I had my truck parked on my driveway (35 degree angle) for the entire weekend and this morning before I went out on the wife car I checked under for any leaks - nothing...
Just my luck with the (Rover gods) this afternoon noticed a puddle of pink liquid under the passenger side, it looks like transmission fluid coming right above where the starter is between the engine and the transmission, it is not just a few drops but it is coming fast like something failed at the rear of the engine. I plan to bring it to the shop early tomorrow morning but if I see so much fluid on the floor the transmission could be empty and there is no other way but call the tow truck.
What do you guys think? I don?t even think these two problems are related but is it my luck?
Figman
 

Figman

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Westchester County, NY
Pdogg... with my luck if I buy a lotto ticket I dont even win the two bucks back from the purchase.

MBrummal... I checked the driveshaft and it looks fine to my eyes; I still think there is something out of wack on the DS. No there isn't a hole in the trasmission, the leak is from where the engine and the transmission join together right behind the starter.

This is crazy...
 

MUSKYMAN

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if you drove around alot on the bad driveshaft the vibration could have very easily shaken the intake loose and the valley pan will then leak the pink coolent off the back of the motor.

people wonder why stuff like head gaskets fail on these things so often yet I have seen head bolts finger tight on trucks with horrible driveline issues.

hello lots of this stuff is connected.
 
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junkyarddisco

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hm

seems unrelated, but actually right on topic

I think it's time to address the vibration I feel in the front end at 30-45 mph, suggested here a going u-joint, and given the characteristic of the vibration I agree

thing is, most of the mechanics 'round these parts hardly know what a rover is,, can someone here give me a reasonable price for this job so I can keep them honest?