Hillary For VP?
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He needs Senator Jim Webb from Va.
atriot:
Sures him up on foreign policy, and vets, gets him Va in the election.
atriot: Sures him up on foreign policy, and vets, gets him Va in the election.
CADisco said:Do you always try to spin everything to support your agenda?
The man just might have been assuring people that he was considering the idea. Truth is no one knows, yet.
Are you a DJ?
Come on the man wants to be the leader of this country and he does not have a VP in place... BS if he is that indecisive i really want him in chrge... All political posturing... :banghead: Guys at that level dont even go to the bathroom with out an agenda
rover4x4 said:
Yeah, well said, that about sums it up.
I don't see an Obama/Clinton ticket in the future. To be honest, I think his best move would be Richardson.
CADisco said:I like Richardson, but think Obama would be better served by someone with bigger balls, Hillary for instance.
Maybe. She is definitely pressing forward. If she succeeds, she is co-president, not VP. If OBama blinks, he is viewed as weak and the VP.
Wednesday, June 04, 2008
The night of the living dead
The Belmont Club
Here's Hillary's latest speech. After starting off by thanking Barack Obama for his contribution to raising an interest in politics, in a slow beginning that sounded like a concession, Clinton suddenly and sharply shifted to asking "who will be the strongest candidate?".
. . . If it wasn't a concession then what the heck was it? A declaration of war?
. . . But it is the last line which is most loaded with menace. "I want … the nearly 18 million Americans who voted for me to be respected, to be heard, and to no longer be invisible." This is not a declaration of war. It's a proclamation of rebellion. Hillary is not going to win within the party frame so she will threaten to win outside of it. . .
. . . If it wasn't a concession then what the heck was it? A declaration of war?
. . . But it is the last line which is most loaded with menace. "I want … the nearly 18 million Americans who voted for me to be respected, to be heard, and to no longer be invisible." This is not a declaration of war. It's a proclamation of rebellion. Hillary is not going to win within the party frame so she will threaten to win outside of it. . .
what does Hillary know that we don't?
Michelle Obama Tape Many Details [Bill Cosby there, Clinton too]
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 06/04/08 | Poster @ Chicago Sun-Times
The Michelle Obama Rant Tape was filmed between June 26th - July 1st 2004 in Chicago, IL at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference at Trinity United Church: specifically the Women’s Event.
Michelle Obama appeared as a panelist alongside Mrs. Khadijah Farrakhan and Mrs. James Meeks.
Bill Clinton spoke during the Conference, as did Bill Cosby and other speakers, but not at the panel Michelle attended.
Michelle Obama spoke at the Women’s Event, but referenced Bill Clinton in her rant — his presence at the conference was the impetus for her raving, it seems.
For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on “whitey”, and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that’s when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who’s seen this.
The “tape” is a DVD that Trinity United sold on its website, and possibly offered free for download up until March 2008 when Trinity’s site was scrubbed and the DVDs were no longer offered for sale.
Michelle Obama appeared as a panelist alongside Mrs. Khadijah Farrakhan and Mrs. James Meeks.
Bill Clinton spoke during the Conference, as did Bill Cosby and other speakers, but not at the panel Michelle attended.
Michelle Obama spoke at the Women’s Event, but referenced Bill Clinton in her rant — his presence at the conference was the impetus for her raving, it seems.
For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on “whitey”, and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that’s when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who’s seen this.
The “tape” is a DVD that Trinity United sold on its website, and possibly offered free for download up until March 2008 when Trinity’s site was scrubbed and the DVDs were no longer offered for sale.
I bet Bill was given a copy . . . .
RETROV said:
Hence the reason I think he would be the best choice. I think the Democrats are taking the hispanic vote for granted. McCain will appeal to this very large voting block due to his "open" view on the border situation. Richardson will pull a lot of them back in.
On the Hillary issue, just wait. She has no intention of being VP. She still thinks she will be President. She would have bowed out by now, but she has something tucked away to use against Obama. "Fuck Whitey" perhaps? After all, she is a Clinton, and she knows the game.
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Hillary has emailed her contributors and announced that she will endorse Barak Obama at an event in Washington, D.C. this Saturday.
The supporters who participate on her website blog are split about 50/50 of those who agree to rally the troops around the party's nominee, and those who are saying they will vote for mcCain or an Independent candidate and will "never" vote for Obama.
Most of the nay sayers list Obama's association with racist blacks as their primary reason for not supporting him, although most aren't quite that blunt.
The supporters who participate on her website blog are split about 50/50 of those who agree to rally the troops around the party's nominee, and those who are saying they will vote for mcCain or an Independent candidate and will "never" vote for Obama.
Most of the nay sayers list Obama's association with racist blacks as their primary reason for not supporting him, although most aren't quite that blunt.
Hillary will bite her lip and wait. There are still shoes to drop on the Obama side of the aisle.
The Chicago corruption investigation is just getting started. From a Chicago Tribune article, Rezko's guilty, Who's next?:
Rezko was a major campaign fund raiser for Gov. Rod Blagojevich and Sen Obama. When Rezko realizes that Obama will not be elected President he will start talking.
From the same Tribune article:
From DuPage County State's Attorney Joe Birkett - "The conviction of Tony Rezko represents a deep stain on the Democratic Party in Illinois. Democrats from top to bottom, including Barack Obama, stood idly by — and in some instances directly benefited — while the massive Blagojevich corruption scheme flourished. They rode into office promising to clean up after the George Ryan scandals and they have taken corruption in Illinois to a new low. They ought to be held accountable . . .
Obama is the product of Mayor Daley's Chicago.
The Chicago corruption investigation is just getting started. From a Chicago Tribune article, Rezko's guilty, Who's next?:
• Three convicted political insiders have testified to Blagojevich's alleged role in private meetings about the purchase of state jobs and state business with campaign contributions. Each said the governor made it clear that people who raised money for his campaign would profit from his influence.
Rezko was a major campaign fund raiser for Gov. Rod Blagojevich and Sen Obama. When Rezko realizes that Obama will not be elected President he will start talking.
From the same Tribune article:
One final point for the 12 million people of Illinois to ponder:
• It's not clear how high in this governor's domain the criminal behavior around him reached. What is clear is that federal agents and prosecutors are bound—and determined—to find out.
• It's not clear how high in this governor's domain the criminal behavior around him reached. What is clear is that federal agents and prosecutors are bound—and determined—to find out.
From DuPage County State's Attorney Joe Birkett - "The conviction of Tony Rezko represents a deep stain on the Democratic Party in Illinois. Democrats from top to bottom, including Barack Obama, stood idly by — and in some instances directly benefited — while the massive Blagojevich corruption scheme flourished. They rode into office promising to clean up after the George Ryan scandals and they have taken corruption in Illinois to a new low. They ought to be held accountable . . .
Obama is the product of Mayor Daley's Chicago.
MarkP said:
Mark, that incredible hypocrisy of yours is showing, yet again. Do I need to list the numerous Bush appointees who have been convicted and sentenced to prison, or the multitude who have quietly resigned and attempted to slip out of town ahead of the possee?
Bush isn't running for President. Some of these issues Mark points out are legitimate. Dismissing them in a "two wrongs make a right" diversion does not truly make it a moot point. Obama keeps getting a pass from everyone and I personally wonder why.apg said:
No candidate is perfect. We, I'm sure, can all agree upon that. The person I wanted isn't exactly out of the race yet but he might as well be (Ron Paul).
I think I'm going to go to KKK rallys with my kids for the next 20 years. After a very short stint at doing nothing in public office, I'll run for President. Then I'm going to act surprised when people say the KKK preaches racial hatred. I hope I get the "by" that BO gets when that day comes. If not, its because you guys hate me because I'm white.
apg said:
No adminstration is perfect. Every administration has had to fire people or they have been in legal trouble. Welcome to the real world.
As Steve pointed out, President Bush isn't running for a 3rd term. Obama is the topic of discussion. His relationship and proximity to Chicago corruption should be of interest to those considering him for POTUS.
If there is any hypocracy, it is those that ignore history.
Mark,
Some of us might actually begin to take you serious if you'd do your own research to determine if a source you reference is credible or not. Several you have psoted are hardly credible... and express your own opinions instead of parroting the neo-conservative establishment.
Haven't we had enough of half-truths and hateful speak; be it from Obama's church or from misguided Ditto-heads.
Some of us might actually begin to take you serious if you'd do your own research to determine if a source you reference is credible or not. Several you have psoted are hardly credible... and express your own opinions instead of parroting the neo-conservative establishment.
Haven't we had enough of half-truths and hateful speak; be it from Obama's church or from misguided Ditto-heads.
CADisco said:
You are confused. I do my own research and offer it from credible sources. As credible as any MSM outlet. Don't come back with the typical "It's Freepers" because those post are in discussion of articles posted in both New and Old Media. The original link is there, if you follow it.
Neo-conservative? :rofl: That tells me that you have no clue what a neo-conservative is. Let me help you. They are former hawkish Democrats. They left the Democrat Party because they viewed the party as becoming weak on defense. They are NOT conservatives. They are much closer to Blue-Dog Democrats than conservative. This is why Bush, McCain, Lieberman and Miller have similar positions on many issues. It also explains "compassionate conservative", compassionate if you like big government. I've already told you I'm a conservative. I am not a neo-conservative/ Rockefeller Republican.
You also exposed yourself by saying that those that follow Rush Limbaugh offer up half-truths and hateful speak, similar to Rev Wright. That is intellectual dishonest in the pursuit of making your misguided point. No one would consider Rush Limbaugh to be a racist. Everyone knows Obama's church is full of racist.
I think Hillary should run for President as an Independent and let her 18 million supporters have their chance to vote for her again. It would solve a lot of problems.