How am I getting this back?

Ballah06

Well-known member
Jan 21, 2007
5,638
16
Savannah, GA
knewsom said:
Makes sense to me... especially when you consider that there are probably a lot of transport aircraft going to Afghanistan fully laden, and the returning empty aside from returning personell, it seems like the military could recoup some of what's lost from that empty space by charging for fuel to take a truck back or something.

Andrew, if you could work this out... 110's for everybody! :D

Another consideration in that plan would be the armed rightful owners of the vehicle(s) in question... Although Andy may be able to distract them with bacon...
 

knewsom

Well-known member
Jul 10, 2008
5,262
0
La Mancha, CA
Ballah06 said:
Another consideration in that plan would be the armed rightful owners of the vehicle(s) in question... Although Andy may be able to distract them with bacon...

Walk up to them with nudy-magazines, they'll have to shield their eyes, and you can car-jack 'em.
 

mgreenspan

Well-known member
Feb 28, 2005
4,723
130
Briggs's Back Yard
knewsom said:
Makes sense to me... especially when you consider that there are probably a lot of transport aircraft going to Afghanistan fully laden, and the returning empty aside from returning personell, it seems like the military could recoup some of what's lost from that empty space by charging for fuel to take a truck back or something.

Andrew, if you could work this out... 110's for everybody! :D

You are an idiot. And comments like it has been done are equally retarded in that they create wild fantasies in people like Knewsom's head. There are plenty of stories of guys dropping brand new from factory BMWs out the back of AF planes. IF anybody does do this they are 100% fucking stupid.
 

jim-00-4.6

Well-known member
Sep 30, 2005
2,037
6
61
Genesee, CO USA
mgreenspan said:
You are an idiot. And comments like it has been done are equally retarded in that they create wild fantasies in people like Knewsom's head. There are plenty of stories of guys dropping brand new from factory BMWs out the back of AF planes. IF anybody does do this they are 100% fucking stupid.
Don't hold back, tell us how you REALLY feel.
 

jim-00-4.6

Well-known member
Sep 30, 2005
2,037
6
61
Genesee, CO USA
Ballah06 said:
Another consideration in that plan would be the armed rightful owners of the vehicle(s) in question... Although Andy may be able to distract them with bacon...
My daughter's 8th grade history class is currently discussing the Alamo & other events including the US taking what is now western US from Mexico.
She didn't think that was very nice of us.

I told her, "here's the way it used to work. If you were strong enough to TAKE it, and strong enough to KEEP it, it was yours."
"And don't feel too bad for the Mexicans; they were mostly descendants of Spaniards, who came and TOOK the land from the natives."
 

Ballah06

Well-known member
Jan 21, 2007
5,638
16
Savannah, GA
jim-00-4.6 said:
My daughter's 8th grade history class is currently discussing the Alamo & other events including the US taking what is now western US from Mexico.
She didn't think that was very nice of us.

I told her, "here's the way it used to work. If you were strong enough to TAKE it, and strong enough to KEEP it, it was yours."
"And don't feel too bad for the Mexicans; they were mostly descendants of Spaniards, who came and TOOK the land from the natives."

I agree whole-heartedly with the "survival of the fittest" type mentality, but unfortunately the overall mentality nowadays seems to be one of weakness and feeling bad for those individuals, banks, industries, countries, etc. that got taken over, tanked, etc. Granted some laws that exist nowadays are to prevent "extreme self-interest" and abuse, businesses in a competitive market should be allowed to take their own natural course.
 

az_max

1
Apr 22, 2005
7,463
2
knewsom said:
Makes sense to me... especially when you consider that there are probably a lot of transport aircraft going to Afghanistan fully laden, and the returning empty aside from returning personell, it seems like the military could recoup some of what's lost from that empty space by charging for fuel to take a truck back or something.

Andrew, if you could work this out... 110's for everybody! :D

They won't because it presents a conflict of interest and the liberal would cry foul over it. There might be carriers contracting to the US Gov't that would transport it back, as long as their contract with the gov't allows it.
 

jhmover

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2004
5,571
3
California
mgreenspan said:
You are an idiot. And comments like it has been done are equally retarded in that they create wild fantasies in people like Knewsom's head. There are plenty of stories of guys dropping brand new from factory BMWs out the back of AF planes. IF anybody does do this they are 100% fucking stupid.

I'm still waiting for one of those $49.95 World War 2 Jeeps in a crate. :D
 

knewsom

Well-known member
Jul 10, 2008
5,262
0
La Mancha, CA
mgreenspan said:
You are an idiot. And comments like it has been done are equally retarded in that they create wild fantasies in people like Knewsom's head. There are plenty of stories of guys dropping brand new from factory BMWs out the back of AF planes. IF anybody does do this they are 100% fucking stupid.

YOU sir, have no sense of humor. :p
 

Rover Mac

Well-known member
Feb 7, 2006
634
1
Los Angeles
spaces.msn.com
Andrew Homan said:
It still kinda looks like a Defender. Has a Sals rear axle and what appears to be a standard 24 spline up front. The coild have been updated but underneath it looks like a regular rover

As pointed out already it is a Shorland armored Land Rover. Known in Land Rover Circles as the boat tail Shorland. Only 450 were built. The turret was from a Mk 2 Ferret armoured car.

Designed by a Police Officer with the Royal Ulster Constabulary in the early 1960's as a anti smuggling patrol vehicle. During the 1970's they were reassigned to the Ulster Defence Regiment. However a machine gun turret was not considered appropriate for patrolling the streets of Northern Ireland, and the vehicle was replaced with the Land Rover Tangi and Hotspur but the Shorland without the turret was used in Northern Ireland up to 1998.
The Mk4 and Mk5 models available with the 3.5 V8 and the Mk5 had an option of a TDi.
used by 24 countries including Lebanon who had 30, Pakistan - Sindh Police, Botswana Defense Force's , United Arab Emirates , and Portugal.
 

Rover Mac

Well-known member
Feb 7, 2006
634
1
Los Angeles
spaces.msn.com
jim-00-4.6 said:
My daughter's 8th grade history class is currently discussing the Alamo & other events including the US taking what is now western US from Mexico.
She didn't think that was very nice of us.

I told her, "here's the way it used to work. If you were strong enough to TAKE it, and strong enough to KEEP it, it was yours."
"And don't feel too bad for the Mexicans; they were mostly descendants of Spaniards, who came and TOOK the land from the natives."

The battle for The Alamo, and what is taught in many history books is incomplete in the way it is portrayed.


Of the 189 defenders who died in the battle only 6 were born in Texas, and 80 had Texas residency. Over 30 were Europeans mainly from Ireland and England but included Germany , Denmark, Scotland and Wales.
Ten of the defenders killed were Tejano Mexicanos who fought and died at the Alamo but are seldom mentioned by the Daughters of the Republic of Texas.

Santa Anna's army suffered approximately 400-600 casualties during the battle, which from a total force of 1,500 is astoundingly high and an indication of both the bravery of the defenders but also of the Mexican soldiers.

Bowie became a Mexican citizen on September 30, 1830
 

Tugela

Well-known member
May 21, 2007
4,766
566
Seattle
Rover Mac said:
Bowie became a Mexican citizen on September 30, 1830

Ummm, no, David Bowie is a British rock musician who wasn't born until the mid twentieth century. I don't believe he has any claims to Mexican citizenship and I don't think that Ziggy Stardust fought at the Alamo.
 

knewsom

Well-known member
Jul 10, 2008
5,262
0
La Mancha, CA
Tugela said:
Ummm, no, David Bowie is a British rock musician who wasn't born until the mid twentieth century. I don't believe he has any claims to Mexican citizenship and I don't think that Ziggy Stardust fought at the Alamo.

:rofl:
 

Rover Mac

Well-known member
Feb 7, 2006
634
1
Los Angeles
spaces.msn.com
Tugela said:
Ummm, no, David Bowie is a British rock musician who wasn't born until the mid twentieth century. I don't believe he has any claims to Mexican citizenship and I don't think that Ziggy Stardust fought at the Alamo.

Funny!
Thought I may have miss typed, James "Jim" Bowie 1796-1836 did become a Mexican citizen after moving to Texas in 1830.
and i know the Daughters of the Republic i spoke to were oblivious of this.
James Bowie was a player and chairman of Glasgow Rangers football club who died in 1972
 

Andrew Homan

Well-known member
Jun 7, 2004
3,682
0
Alaska
The rover belongs to the Azurebastan (no idea how to spell it) Army. They were the nicest people I have met here. I think they would have let me drive it back to camp if I asked. In fact their 1st Lt. is the one who took the picture.

I did located the Land Rover dealer in Kabul but didn't have the camera ready. It was cool. Mud brick style building with a brand new sign and a new 110 on display. I have no way to describe this place. My words will not do it justice.
 

Attachments

  • P1010788.JPG
    P1010788.JPG
    127.9 KB · Views: 22
  • P1010791.JPG
    P1010791.JPG
    132.3 KB · Views: 21
  • P1010793.JPG
    P1010793.JPG
    149.7 KB · Views: 22

Ballah06

Well-known member
Jan 21, 2007
5,638
16
Savannah, GA
Andrew Homan said:
The rover belongs to the Azurebastan (no idea how to spell it) Army. They were the nicest people I have met here. I think they would have let me drive it back to camp if I asked. In fact their 1st Lt. is the one who took the picture.

I did located the Land Rover dealer in Kabul but didn't have the camera ready. It was cool. Mud brick style building with a brand new sign and a new 110 on display. I have no way to describe this place. My words will not do it justice.

Sounds like it may have been the guys from the Republic of Azerbaijan, one of the former Soviet Union republics (1920-91).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijan

The flag in the pic seems to match up as well.
 
Last edited: