Hunter's safety guide.

stolenheron

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ptschram said:
Snow in the bore?

I've seen many instances of this happening with shotguns, but never a rifle. Had a friend of mine's Browning trap gun barrel not blown up, but bulged from a kid putting a gum wrapper in the end of the barrel.

it can also happen for using improper ammo for the gun or from using ammo filled improperly.

regardless, both of those guys were very lucky they didnt get bits of shrapnel all over them.
 

stolenheron

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Skaramunga said:
that's what i thought too, wrong ammo. i couldn't figure it out tho? maybe it was a new gun & he was a dipshit.

that kid needs a serious talking to.

i bet he wanted to pack in a round with the highest grain count, past what was recommended for the cartridge itself and the gun. i'm all for pushing limits...but you're dumb if you ever wanna push the limits of a fire arm.
 
Overloaded cartridges typically result in blowing the barrel from the action, blowing the bolt out the back of the action with the locking lugs stripped off, or the front ring tearing. What we see here is more consistent with an obstruction in the bore.

I have seen many firearms failures from when my dad and I ran our gun shop. Wrong ammunition, or overloaded cartridges almost always results in action damage, or at the least, distortion. Bananna-peeling of barrels is almost always due to bore obstructions.
 

kennith

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ptschram said:
Overloaded cartridges typically result in blowing the barrel from the action, blowing the bolt out the back of the action with the locking lugs stripped off, or the front ring tearing. What we see here is more consistent with an obstruction in the bore.

I have seen many firearms failures from when my dad and I ran our gun shop. Wrong ammunition, or overloaded cartridges almost always results in action damage, or at the least, distortion. Bananna-peeling of barrels is almost always due to bore obstructions.

Correct.

The bugger kept a filthy weapon, or wasn't watching his muzzle as he should have been.

People just don't get how important a clean firearm is.

They take it out for the weekend, fire 50 or so rounds, and pack it right up.

The firearms I'm not using are mothballed. They are still inspected and maintained once a month, though. The firearms that I keep ready are cleaned once a week, and immediately after a trip to the range. If I am to fire many rounds at the range, I swab the bore regularly and clean the entire firearm at intervals befitting of the ammunition use.

There is NO excuse for a dirty weapon. Such a thing is a liability, and an exhibition of foolishness.

If you are out hunting, your firearm should be cleaned and inspected before the day starts, inspected and maintained as necessary during the day, and cleaned and inspected at the end of the day.

VERY few people actually do this. That's one thing the military got right. Your firearm can never be clean enough.

Cheers,

Kennith
 
tightgroup said:
Or a squid load

Thus, an obstruction in the bore.

The squib load left a bullet somewhere in the bore and the next one banana-peeled the barrel. I've seen it happen often with trap guns where the wad remains in the barrel.

This tends to be a problem at bigger ranges where there are many shooting at the same time and the guy with the squib load might not be able to hear the difference in the report and then goes on to the next target, or the next station and the next time he's up to shoot, BANG! The barrel banana-peels.

I've had one instance of a cartridge separate. I was so glad I was shooting a Remington manufactured 03-A4 Springfield with the big gas ports in the front ring. I still looked like a raccoon! That shell didn't get reloaded again:smilelol:
 

kennith

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ptschram said:
Thus, an obstruction in the bore.

The squib load left a bullet somewhere in the bore and the next one banana-peeled the barrel. I've seen it happen often with trap guns where the wad remains in the barrel.

This tends to be a problem at bigger ranges where there are many shooting at the same time and the guy with the squib load might not be able to hear the difference in the report and then goes on to the next target, or the next station and the next time he's up to shoot, BANG! The barrel banana-peels.

I've had one instance of a cartridge separate. I was so glad I was shooting a Remington manufactured 03-A4 Springfield with the big gas ports in the front ring. I still looked like a raccoon! That shell didn't get reloaded again:smilelol:

That is possible as well. Squib loads can certainly do that. Very dangerous.

Cheers,

Kennith
 
kennith said:
That is possible as well. Squib loads can certainly do that. Very dangerous.

Cheers,

Kennith

LOL, EVERY trap range I've shot on has a ramrod for removing wads. My reloader (which has had more than one million shells reloaded through it) has a horrible problem with the charge bar seizing and many squib loads.

When I shot regulraly, all of my friends had little pieces of brass to drop down the bore to push the wads out! We used them as advertising novelties, I had them stamped with the company name and gave them away at the ranges.