INEOS Grenadier
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None of these would move me off the Grenadier. I can’t stand the looks of the GX either.
That’s not bad
Still got another 100k in the LR4, my next rig prob be a space ship.
Pretty good review of the Ineos by someone who has been very critical prior to release. Also, love the color of this one. I was probably going to go all white like PM if I would have bought, or baby blue. If I did ever get back in the market for one, this is the color I would go with.
Yes. If you scale the cargo compartment of a Grenadier by the spare tire, you'll get exactly LR4 dimensions.
Put close to 700 miles on the Grenadier since Dec.7.
Annoying things:
- engine drone (most annoying - mid-throttle around 80).
- ADAS over-speed warning. It actually is made to be less intrusive than it could be, but - it reads the "recommended speed" signs as speed limit, meaning the four-click comes anytime you hit a highway ramp or a turn. In California, truck-trailers have 55mph speed limit - which ADAS also interprets as overall speed limit.
- there ARE blind spots. A low shitbox right or left of you, bumper near your B-pillar, is nearly invisible.
- steering: it is neither too heavy nor too light. But it feels exactly as steering on two-inch-lifted Classic or Disco - with about 3-4" at center that feel like a dead spot. It is not a problem at all at single-lane twisties, but it is unnerving going a foot away from a retaining wall at 80mph.
So... a near-stock late Classic is a better car. But a Classic is something that requires hours of maintenance every month, otherwise it turns into a whiskey tango shitbox in a year. I also do not miss a knot-in-the-stomach feeling of not having power to simply keep with traffic (I-25 between Phoenix and Verde Valley is a good example) - the Grenadier loaded with 200+ lbs of booze and three adults had no problem keeping with everyone else in the 8th gear, around 2200 rpm (just like an LR4).
I hope to enjoy more life in a Grenadier - but I am keeping my Classic right along.
Took a load of floral arrangements to a nursing home in Canoga Park yesterday -
and on the way back met Aaron Shrier with his Grenadier:
Annoying things:
- engine drone (most annoying - mid-throttle around 80).
- ADAS over-speed warning. It actually is made to be less intrusive than it could be, but - it reads the "recommended speed" signs as speed limit, meaning the four-click comes anytime you hit a highway ramp or a turn. In California, truck-trailers have 55mph speed limit - which ADAS also interprets as overall speed limit.
- there ARE blind spots. A low shitbox right or left of you, bumper near your B-pillar, is nearly invisible.
- steering: it is neither too heavy nor too light. But it feels exactly as steering on two-inch-lifted Classic or Disco - with about 3-4" at center that feel like a dead spot. It is not a problem at all at single-lane twisties, but it is unnerving going a foot away from a retaining wall at 80mph.
So... a near-stock late Classic is a better car. But a Classic is something that requires hours of maintenance every month, otherwise it turns into a whiskey tango shitbox in a year. I also do not miss a knot-in-the-stomach feeling of not having power to simply keep with traffic (I-25 between Phoenix and Verde Valley is a good example) - the Grenadier loaded with 200+ lbs of booze and three adults had no problem keeping with everyone else in the 8th gear, around 2200 rpm (just like an LR4).
I hope to enjoy more life in a Grenadier - but I am keeping my Classic right along.
Took a load of floral arrangements to a nursing home in Canoga Park yesterday -
and on the way back met Aaron Shrier with his Grenadier:
Thanks for the honest review and feedback...so many people who plunk down money would just be "this thing rocks!".
For my needs towing a wide over the wheels flatbed trailer full of stuff the steering would be really scary in construction zones with tight lanes. Especially since they are more frequent around Chicagoland than not.
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I wonder if there's a band-aid solution to the self-centering and dead spot - like the "return-to-center" springs over steering dampers. That was a cheap solution for lifted Discos and Classics early on.
Great to hear you like your new ride! Know you have a couple of RRCs yet my RRC doesn’t require hours of maintenance every month to keep it in good shape. However I might not drive it as much as you do yours. Totally agree though they do require more tinkering than a newer, modern design vehicle! And hopefully didn’t jinx it as plan to drive the Rangie this Christmas to Pittsburgh!
My LR4 is in the shop for the dreaded coolant leak. Luckily it's just a pinhole leak in the radiator. After 24 years of Land Rover ownership I've just accepted that you can get hit with a thousand dollar repair or maintenance expense at any time. Right now I am averaging $381.51 per month in repair expenses per month over 3.42 years of LR4 ownership. That's repair expenses, not including regular maintenance. If I add in maintenance then my average per month is $623.02. Granted, I have a shop do it all so a lot of this is labor expense but I would either be paying the direct expense or paying with time.
That’s crazy bones. I haven’t sent mine to a shop yet, but I’m not even at $1500 total, over 3 years and 40k miles. I couldn’t afford this thing if I had to send it to a shop for every repair. I just did all four corners of brakes two weeks ago. It’s going to a local Indy for a full cooling system checkup and overhaul before summertime, I don’t have time for that job.
Paying with time is usually a great deal as I'm guessing most of us don't make $200 plus an hour
Your example is the main reason why I’m keeping the RRC and the D1 for my Rover fix. Also have a great mechanic who is able to care for the “fleet”. When he retires probably will sell all of them!
My shop is only at $140 per hour and they only recently raised it to that amount from $125. Definitely worth having them do it all.Paying with time is usually a great deal as I'm guessing most of us don't make $200 plus an hour