Too really be fun doesn't it have to be. That's the problem I have with off-road SUV's of today. Who wants to take their 65-110k rig out and F it up, but how much fun can you have if your constantly worried about f'ing up your toy.
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Ditto. My friend takes his very nice TD6 D5 on the trails with us. It did great (no surprise) but the scratches it got made me cringe and I don’t even own it. No way of getting around that on tight and overgrown trails here in the southeast. I however wasn’t too concerned about some scratches my old LR3. A two Rover garage (D5 daily + LR3) is probably my solution
I'm with Peter....my daily has been a Disco since 1999, with the exception of a few years after I crashed & rebuilt my 1996 D1 from 2004 to about 2006/2007. I love driving up the highway, turning off at a dirt road, and then just driving on and on like you're going to the grocery store but you're getting deeper and deeper into the unknown. I've never towed any off road truck, never worried about storing a trailer, never worried about where to stage a trailer, or worrying about having to end up back where I started to get the trailer. Half the fun is popping out of a trail after a 100+ miles on dirt onto some remote state route last paved in the 1970s and trying to figure out how the hell to get back to civilization.
A modern truck will tow about anything in complete comfort. A classic is not well equipped to tow itself. I need a truck to tow and haul other loads anyway, so I'm already in a position to tow a vehicle. Also, you don't have to tow it to the last mile, just the general area/town saves 80% of the miserable freeway miles. If something goes wrong on the trail, having a nearby backup vehicle is very convenient. I get it though. Towing a trailer around sucks, until it doesn't. I wouldn't strongly advocate for either strategy. They're just different compromises.
I don't think you get it. This is a typical "fun trip" track - most of it was on dirt, and pavement "entry and exit" points were hundreds of miles apart.
If your "fun ride" can't cover any significant highway mileage, you're not going far in the West.
No I get it. Imagine you want to do that trip in a Series truck though. It's not that it cant handle the freeway miles, it's that they suck. If you have the option to minimize those miles by towing part way, then it could make the overall trip more enjoyable. It depends on the route though and how far away you live from it. If you only save 10% of the miles by towing, then it's probably not worth it.
Meh.
I love waxing and detailing my truck. I also am totally fine with squeezing it through trees in trails up here. Scratches and small dents to me don’t really equate to real body damage… which is what I’d do when I was leaning my Jeep against trees to pivot around rocks.
Or, maybe you don't get that this type of off-roading is fun. Not the way this dumb ass did it going off trail, but the conditions in general. Now if you watch this guys channel you will see plenty of people who take very expensive vehicles and F them. But oh so many years ago with my CJ I didn't have to do that. As long as I kept my intake above water I was OK. Would you do this with your Grenadier?
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That sums it up nicely.
I still would rather drive than tow my ride, hence the choices.
Even with the Grenadier, I prefer two-lanes to the Interstate.
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I don’t mind a good cut/polish/wax and detail though don’t have free time like I used to. It’s more the idea of a vehicle your making a decent monthly payment on coming off the trail like a metal garden rake was taken to the side of it
Which was the Land Rover philosophy in the past. Capable vehicles that got you there and back in many different driving conditions. Not being towed. In their time period this was the mantra for Defenders and Range Rovers.
It now appears the Grenadier is the modern time version of this philosophy. Am looking forward to seeing / reading more on how PM’s works out for him.
Yeaup. With the two little kids I’m lucky if I have time just for a wash. I used to do both cars once a week.
Life changes, priorities change. Im keeping this truck for a long time so dents and dirt don’t matter to me as much as maintenance and mechanical upkeep.
Yeah, well the nice thing about that is ( if you have a little backbone) it won't be very long and your kids can do those trivial jobs. Win for you, win for them ( although they may not agree at the time), win for society.
Funny story along those lines. My son recently visited home and admonished me for being a poor parent. His girlfriend is finishing nursing school in a small town with limited opportunities, so wanting to stay around her he took a job at Menards. And when someone comes in and ask him where some obscure plumbing supply item might be found... well it's all my fault that he doesn't know what they're talking about. I wasn't demanding enough of him as he was growing up. The sad thing is I waited so long in life to have children that I won't be alive to throw that back in his face at some point.
Funny story along those lines. My son recently visited home and admonished me for being a poor parent. His girlfriend is finishing nursing school in a small town with limited opportunities, so wanting to stay around her he took a job at Menards. And when someone comes in and ask him where some obscure plumbing supply item might be found... well it's all my fault that he doesn't know what they're talking about. I wasn't demanding enough of him as he was growing up. The sad thing is I waited so long in life to have children that I won't be alive to throw that back in his face at some point.
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WOW. That thing makes the newer FJ Cruise look excellent. That is truly horrific.
I wouldn't got through that with your truck and if I did my well being would need to be at stake.
I wouldn't go through that with my '23 Tacoma either, but did shit like that all the time in my CJ. The only ill effects was to the front wheel bearings. I got to where I could repack/replace them in my sleep.
I guess if I ever live close enough to somewhere worth off-roading, and get the urge to really trail ride again, it will be on a Honda Rincon or a side by side.