INEOS Grenadier

DiscoHasBeen

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okay, let me elaborate.
33" fit without any caveats.
34" may wipe out oil cooler or an additional radiator under lock and stuff.
I know 34 is a deal-breaker for you.
Man you don't know me at all. First, it's your truck, not mine, you do you, I'm just commenting.

Tires are really difficult because there are endless options. It can be hard to come up with a tire size/tread that will meet all your needs. So it's really a compromise isn't it, unless you want to be like me and buy a second set of rims/tires. Then you need to buy a second set of TPMS sensors and clone them to not have the dashboard light on. I have 34's on my Tacoma right now. I have a set of 32's warming up on the bench. The 34's are more a street tread and give the truck a really good look but are killing MPG. The other set are 235/85/16 with an aggressive tread. That narrow of a tire, while great on the trail, was wearing down on the road really fast.
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I found those FJ rims really cheap on Ebay and those 34" tires for like $187 on WalMart. Gave me a chance to check out the look on the cheap.
 
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bri

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You know... first I liked the vehicle, then decided it was fugly, then was coming back around with P Ms talk about a modern purpose built vehicle....

Then I read the "4wd mode" procedure. Seems that alone is pretty much a deal breaker for me. But then again it is so unlikely it would ever happen as I do not have the space or money for a toy and that is all it would be.
 

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Then I read the "4wd mode" procedure. Seems that alone is pretty much a deal breaker for me.
Have you had two selectable lockers in any of your vehicles?
Every single person I knew with dual ARBs took like five minutes to get this shit going. And that's assuming it worked - because of shitty wiring to the pump, chaffed through air lines, leaky O-rings, burned pump - you name it.
From a couple I have known for decades, and who went through a few Land Rovers before punting and getting a Rubicon, the jeep's locking process is a little faster. But you have to realize that, whatever I wrote, I've done it for the first time ever.
And, doubtless, when the collective experience grows, people will learn all the tricks and bypasses.
 

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Yes, a ‘93 LWB. They were ARBs and worked without any issues.
How long did it take from you wanting to lock both diffs and them actually being locked?

That's not an idle question. With an ARB, or OX, or any other, you don't know if the diff is locked - until you or someone else confirms that both wheels turn at the same rate. There's no magic to it - all of them use spline collars of sorts, and until splines mesh, they aren't locked. It may happen that the splines mesh perfectly and they lock at once, but if it isn't the case, you may be driving for a mile in a straight line and they won't lock.

At least, Grenadier's lockers tell you when they are engaged - or in process of engaging.
 

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How long did it take from you wanting to lock both diffs and them actually being locked?

That's not an idle question. With an ARB, or OX, or any other, you don't know if the diff is locked - until you or someone else confirms that both wheels turn at the same rate. There's no magic to it - all of them use spline collars of sorts, and until splines mesh, they aren't locked. It may happen that the splines mesh perfectly and they lock at once, but if it isn't the case, you may be driving for a mile in a straight line and they won't lock.

At least, Grenadier's lockers tell you when they are engaged - or in process of engaging.
Actually very quickly.
The switches were illuminated - when you pushed the switch to engage they turned blue.
You could hear the compressed air as well.
As far as knowing they were totally engaged totally by feel.
No doubt the setup on the Grenadier is more advanced yet never had an issue with the ARBs engaging and as important disengaging!
 

bri

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Have you had two selectable lockers in any of your vehicles?
Every single person I knew with dual ARBs took like five minutes to get this shit going. And that's assuming it worked - because of shitty wiring to the pump, chaffed through air lines, leaky O-rings, burned pump - you name it.
From a couple I have known for decades, and who went through a few Land Rovers before punting and getting a Rubicon, the jeep's locking process is a little faster. But you have to realize that, whatever I wrote, I've done it for the first time ever.
And, doubtless, when the collective experience grows, people will learn all the tricks and bypasses.
Why yes I have, 2 and wheeled them quite a lot. None of that crap is inherant in the system, that is all install and maintenance I have heard that crap so many times, yet in all the years I wheeled with ARB the only problem I had were where you push the airline into the compressor and I never had that problem on the trail. I seriously doubt that it was just luck.

Both my ARB rigged discos locked as soon as the locker could mechanically, I seemed like about 6" or so.

CDL is way tougher to engage than an ARB. All that hoopty junk you have to do on a brand new vehicle is more work than on my old 30 year old disco for sure. Not that I am some huge fan of ARB, they were just the only readily available option for selectable locker in D1.
 
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Blueboy

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CDL is way tougher to engage than an ARB. All that hoopty junk you have to do on a brand new vehicle is more work than on my old 30 year old disco for sure. Not that I am some huge fan of ARB, they were just the only readily available option for selectable locker in D1.
Yes, my thoughts as well on the CDL in my Disco. Much more vague for engagement than engaging my ARBs at the time in the Rangie.