I still prefer to have CDs, they are mine forever and I can put the data anywhere. Good news is used Cds are cheap on Ebay.
iTunes Sucks
- Thread starter Paul Grant
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Yes apple sucks, but I am a long ways from having all of my music moved to one common (hopefully lossless) source.
Now, I just wanted to get iTunes up to date.
I could not download 12.2.2, the Apple Software Updater took something like 3 hours on a 150MB update.
I did it manually in under 5 minutes.
To problem above with "apple internal" download speeds was a symptom, I did not think about too much until I went to preview a song.
itunes is rebuffering after about every 2 seconds of song. It rebuffers for about 20sec to > 1 minute. WTF?
I can speed test at about 7.5Mbps (unfortunately DSL here), stream HD via computer or Netflix/amazon, but iTunes cannot play music?
This may be the last straw.
Now, I just wanted to get iTunes up to date.
I could not download 12.2.2, the Apple Software Updater took something like 3 hours on a 150MB update.
I did it manually in under 5 minutes.
To problem above with "apple internal" download speeds was a symptom, I did not think about too much until I went to preview a song.
itunes is rebuffering after about every 2 seconds of song. It rebuffers for about 20sec to > 1 minute. WTF?
I can speed test at about 7.5Mbps (unfortunately DSL here), stream HD via computer or Netflix/amazon, but iTunes cannot play music?
This may be the last straw.
It's ironic that the IPod / iTunes combo is what got me over to Apple and now it's the thing I dislike about Apple the most. Everyone in the iTunes organization at Apple should be fired and they should start over. My kids have Kindles and the fact that you don't need a computer to sync to puts it light years ahead of iTunes.
Mike, try the wireless sync. It works, sometimes. If you have issues with it reset your wireless router.
My point is that the Kindle is simple. When you buy something from Amazon, it's in the cloud. If you want to download it, you just click a few buttons on the Kindle. It's more complicated on the iPad.
The sync process sucks as well. If I delete apps on my iPad and then sync it wants to put the app back on my iPad. The other issue is that iTunes wants to copy every app that I have on the iPad and send it to the computer. It sucks to have to wait 10 minutes to do what I wanted to do in the first place.
The sync process sucks as well. If I delete apps on my iPad and then sync it wants to put the app back on my iPad. The other issue is that iTunes wants to copy every app that I have on the iPad and send it to the computer. It sucks to have to wait 10 minutes to do what I wanted to do in the first place.
You just hit the nail on the head. I also want to mirror the devices. Take it off the ipad it takes it off Itunes. I think this issue occurs when you have multiple Apple devices. I often wonder if apple tries to screw the PPL with 16GB devices.
Want to ask, on the Amazon device does it just play the song, app whatever from the cloud? Reason I ask, I'm not so sure apps and songs should just auto download if you add/remove them. If that's the case does it work okay?
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I am ditching itunes. Online music will be amazon and high quality will be lossless, likely FLAC. Fortunately I do not have a huge investment in online music from iTunes Store.
This will be something that I start working on in October, if anyone else has application advice for ripping and playback let me know. Right now with minimal knowledge of lossless I'd choose dBpoweramp and maybe winamp for playback.
This will be something that I start working on in October, if anyone else has application advice for ripping and playback let me know. Right now with minimal knowledge of lossless I'd choose dBpoweramp and maybe winamp for playback.
Dedication to iTunes makes it impossible for me to turn back now. The Amazon echo looks cool but all devices tend to use their own system. Not a prime member and don't use the Amazon cloud. If I really wanted an echo I would have to wait for apple to design a similar product. I'm Brand loyal to some extent. The iPhone and iPad played a huge role in this for me.
Well, that is your choice, but when the latest version of a product can't even do basic stuff that you can do in a browser, like stream a preview of a song in a really low quality it helps me make a decision and although ripping hundreds of CD is not really a fun task to do, it will be great to have them in a native accessible format.
Apple has you right where they want you and as long as they have people locked in, they will be able to do whatever they choose. I doubt that I will ever own an iphone or ipad and at this point the only portability I need is to be able to play on portable computers.
Being prime pays for itself with just a few deliveries for me, so its easy. I'll avoid buying online music as much as I can until there is a good solution for lossless.
I am certain it will take tinkering to figure out formats, file organization, metadata and such, but I am certain it will end up being a better quality setup than I have with itunes.
I am not brand loyal to electronics and certainly never will be to Apple. I do have some decent samsung devices, but really would have done Sony had I not had limited budget.
Apple has you right where they want you and as long as they have people locked in, they will be able to do whatever they choose. I doubt that I will ever own an iphone or ipad and at this point the only portability I need is to be able to play on portable computers.
Being prime pays for itself with just a few deliveries for me, so its easy. I'll avoid buying online music as much as I can until there is a good solution for lossless.
I am certain it will take tinkering to figure out formats, file organization, metadata and such, but I am certain it will end up being a better quality setup than I have with itunes.
I am not brand loyal to electronics and certainly never will be to Apple. I do have some decent samsung devices, but really would have done Sony had I not had limited budget.
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Well, that is your choice, but when the latest version of a product can't even do basic stuff that you can do in a browser, like stream a preview of a song in a really low quality it helps me make a decision and although ripping hundreds of CD is not really a fun task to do, it will be great to have them in a native accessible format.
I can do this very easily with itunes. Click on any song and it will play the first 45 seconds, click again to buy. Maybe I'm missing your point. Oh, the itunes quality is quite high for the preview as well.
Apple has you right where they want you and as long as they have people locked in, they will be able to do whatever they choose. I doubt that I will ever own an iphone or ipad and at this point the only portability I need is to be able to play on portable computers.
I thought the same exact thing, until I bought one.
Being prime pays for itself with just a few deliveries for me, so its easy. I'll avoid buying online music as much as I can until there is a good solution for lossless.
Itunes takes care of this as well. Once you buy a song it connects it to your id and you can download it any other time you want for life. Can't remember all your songs? Easy just click move entire library to phone or ipad.
I am certain it will take tinkering to figure out formats, file organization, metadata and such, but I am certain it will end up being a better quality setup than I have with itunes.
I am not brand loyal to electronics and certainly never will be to Apple. I do have some decent samsung devices, but really would have done Sony had I not had limited budget.
Sony sucks, they have gone downhill big time over the last 10 years as far as I'm concerned. Their brand was known for top of the line, quality timeless products and I've noticed that start to reverse.
I can do this very easily with itunes. Click on any song and it will play the first 45 seconds, click again to buy. Maybe I'm missing your point. Oh, the itunes quality is quite high for the preview as well.
Apple has you right where they want you and as long as they have people locked in, they will be able to do whatever they choose. I doubt that I will ever own an iphone or ipad and at this point the only portability I need is to be able to play on portable computers.
I thought the same exact thing, until I bought one.
Being prime pays for itself with just a few deliveries for me, so its easy. I'll avoid buying online music as much as I can until there is a good solution for lossless.
Itunes takes care of this as well. Once you buy a song it connects it to your id and you can download it any other time you want for life. Can't remember all your songs? Easy just click move entire library to phone or ipad.
I am certain it will take tinkering to figure out formats, file organization, metadata and such, but I am certain it will end up being a better quality setup than I have with itunes.
I am not brand loyal to electronics and certainly never will be to Apple. I do have some decent samsung devices, but really would have done Sony had I not had limited budget.
Sony sucks, they have gone downhill big time over the last 10 years as far as I'm concerned. Their brand was known for top of the line, quality timeless products and I've noticed that start to reverse.
I was an apple hater until college. Up until I switched in 2009 I had my self-upgraded 15" Dell business class notebook PC running a skinned and slimmed down version in Windows XP, a Linux desktop, an Android phone, and a Zune... so I was as far outside of the Apple ecosystem as you can get.
After an accident ruined my Dell, I went with a 13" Macbook Pro, shortly after sold the Zune and bought an iPod classic and stopped using my Linux box. Switched to an iPhone once my contract allowed a few months later. My six year old MBP is running Yosemite (the latest iteration of OS X) with 4GB of RAM and a 120GB SSD... its blazing fast. I stopped using my 120GB iPod classic and sold it a few months ago for almost what I bought it for. I only use iTunes to dump my pirated movies into so I can then stream them via Airplay on my Apple TV, through my Airport Extreme-managed network. My phone backs up to iCloud (as well as Google) I'm in pretty deep; the kool-aid is goddamn delicious.
After an accident ruined my Dell, I went with a 13" Macbook Pro, shortly after sold the Zune and bought an iPod classic and stopped using my Linux box. Switched to an iPhone once my contract allowed a few months later. My six year old MBP is running Yosemite (the latest iteration of OS X) with 4GB of RAM and a 120GB SSD... its blazing fast. I stopped using my 120GB iPod classic and sold it a few months ago for almost what I bought it for. I only use iTunes to dump my pirated movies into so I can then stream them via Airplay on my Apple TV, through my Airport Extreme-managed network. My phone backs up to iCloud (as well as Google) I'm in pretty deep; the kool-aid is goddamn delicious.
Yes it is. Itunes has made some great advancements over the last 7 releases. It could be a bit more intuitive. What apps and songs are where, and how you manage them could be MUCH easier IMO. What makes this confusing is separating the two library's of music. One is your device (phone) and the other is what's on your computer. This is simply no necessary. Mirror them, screw all the PPL that want it separate, no reason for this. If there is not enough room on the device then add the song to the device library anyway as a cloud only stream.
The iTunes, apple tv with the mac and iPod works pretty well for me.
When I am watching a video or playing music, I use the apple tv to airplay it on the tv or just listening to music. But don't really like the current iTunes interface.
I totally hated the iPhone 6, it is big flat and uncomfortable to hold, I still like the 4, and maybe the 5 ( as it is just a little longer), what I am trying to say is that maybe sooner or later in the future, their new product is not always better than the old one.
When I am watching a video or playing music, I use the apple tv to airplay it on the tv or just listening to music. But don't really like the current iTunes interface.
I totally hated the iPhone 6, it is big flat and uncomfortable to hold, I still like the 4, and maybe the 5 ( as it is just a little longer), what I am trying to say is that maybe sooner or later in the future, their new product is not always better than the old one.
Sony still makes the best TVs on the planet.
I have an ipod now that's it. I have owned variety of apple products since 1984, including iPhone, which I have no idea why it has such a huge following since I see nothing specifically unique about it. I've used itunes since the very first release.
I have no reason to own or use Apple products any longer.
I am running itunes 12.2.2 since about a week ago. It can't even play a preview of the song or use the software updater. I have no doubt that it works for someone else. It has worked for me to. But this same problem happens to others as well. It is lame/faulty software.
Apple support and they have not even responded and I am certain that they could care fucking less. I have no problem extending the same attitude to Apple.
There is no reason for me to waste my time trying to figure out why itunes is broken. I won't buy anything via itunes and once I rip to lossless I will not use itunes to manage music or play it back.
It's no problem of yours. But MANY people have significant problems with iTunes.
So... you have never had a problem with an iTunes update, loss or partial loss of iTunes library? Never had a problem to have to contact support and find out that they could give a shit about people with problems...
I can only guess that you have not been using iTunes for very long. I have used it since day one it sucked, got better and sucks again. I am not the only one with this exact same issue. Of course until it reaches critical mass and Apple could care less.
Pure marketing will not hold up a company once people start realizing exactly how overrated their products are. Its happened to Apple before and also many other great companies. What Apple does is no longer ground breaking design or technology, apples success is presently due almost solely to their fan base.
Companies don't have to give me free SHIT (and yes and $150 smartphone garage door opener is shit to me), what they have to do is produce a product that I like and that is usable. This kind of crap is the way that apple gets its fans.
So... you have never had a problem with an iTunes update, loss or partial loss of iTunes library? Never had a problem to have to contact support and find out that they could give a shit about people with problems...
I can only guess that you have not been using iTunes for very long. I have used it since day one it sucked, got better and sucks again. I am not the only one with this exact same issue. Of course until it reaches critical mass and Apple could care less.
Pure marketing will not hold up a company once people start realizing exactly how overrated their products are. Its happened to Apple before and also many other great companies. What Apple does is no longer ground breaking design or technology, apples success is presently due almost solely to their fan base.
Companies don't have to give me free SHIT (and yes and $150 smartphone garage door opener is shit to me), what they have to do is produce a product that I like and that is usable. This kind of crap is the way that apple gets its fans.
LOL! I'd never pay $150 to access my garage door but it does come in handy when I'm using a company car. The rep. I dealt with was very nice and understood my position. She also gave me her direct email address and responded in less than 5 minutes with the 5+ emails I sent her. What other large company does that?
I've used itunes since the ipod Nano (2005), so yes, a long time. The only issue I've ever had with itunes is that the update sometimes will not download correctly, I simply start the process over.
Your post seems sort of angry, almost as if you have a vendetta against apple products and their owners. Again, it sucks you've had such an awful experience with them. Many others (myself included) have had great dealings with them and have stuck with it throughout each and every update.
Itunes is in fact, clunky and the user interface could be made much simpler. Mike's syncing issues hold true as well, apple needs to work on this. Other than that I've had little to no issues.
I'm not a fanboy of Apple, I don't stand in the lines and could really care less about the type of phone I have. I do care about my phone being an all-in-1 device and a simple user interface. My father (who is 70) learned to use his iphone in 1 week, he had never picked up a smartphone before this. So, this choice is clear for me if apple ever made wrong move that was a deal breaker I'd be gone in a heartbeat.
Vandetta? Nah. A little harsh for just bashing a company that is producing mediocre tech, crappy software. If I were to call someone a fanboy that might be a little derogatory, but I didn't. Fans can be enthusiasts, brand loyal, what have you. But Apple has many that have become this way because of great design and marketing. The real meat behind their most recent stuff seems average and the design just Ok. I really do like their PC displays though. One thing that they continue to do well is build good looking, easy to look at and read operating systems. Their phone displays are presently "eh".
It should not take a week to learn how to use a smartphone.
Things are changing for mobile phones, none of them are hard to use and there are enough people using them that the user interface technology and standards will make all phones trivial to operate. iPhone really is no more easy to use than Android (on the surface).
Since I am not a twitter, facebooker, live streamer or clouder it comes down to how well can the device connect me to the internet/tether, capture/playback music/video, and application performance. I've not been impressed with these on the iPhone for greater than 3 years.
We'll see how this goes, maybe I won't have a good experience with lossless ripping and alternative playback software vs iTunes. Who knows, but I am going to give it a whirl.
It should not take a week to learn how to use a smartphone.
Things are changing for mobile phones, none of them are hard to use and there are enough people using them that the user interface technology and standards will make all phones trivial to operate. iPhone really is no more easy to use than Android (on the surface).
Since I am not a twitter, facebooker, live streamer or clouder it comes down to how well can the device connect me to the internet/tether, capture/playback music/video, and application performance. I've not been impressed with these on the iPhone for greater than 3 years.
We'll see how this goes, maybe I won't have a good experience with lossless ripping and alternative playback software vs iTunes. Who knows, but I am going to give it a whirl.