iTunes Sucks

slangel

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*and f*ck the new connection, I get the proprietary apple stuff, but damn everyone has a 32 pin charger at their house.

LOL! We have both types of Apple chargers around the house now since we both went to 5s and we have ipads, and kiddos have the minis.
 

bri

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iPhones have had plenty of issues. So have other phones. Actually the last mobile phone I had fail was a razor and it had to be like 7 or more years ago.

My main point, that I thought was rather obvious was ease of use. Since I don't spill, step on, throw or etc my phone those things are not important to me, so I guess I still don't need one.

I just really have a hard time believing that someone could spend a week or two trying to get a quality mobile phone to work. It's just not that hard. What particular thing was not working after to weeks or so unbearable you had to go get another iphone?

Nothing on my iPhone was so bad I would have returned it. It was an OK phone, but given all the diehard followers and usability hype I was expecting something really good ... and it wasn't any better than any of the other crap out there.

It definitely wasn't something so much better that I got excited about it and wanted to go get ipads, imacs and other stuff that will lock me into spending mints on proprietary, censored software.
 

slangel

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It definitely wasn't something so much better that I got excited about it and wanted to go get ipads, imacs and other stuff that will lock me into spending mints on proprietary, censored software.

We just prefer the platform, and my 2 yr old utilizes his Ipad to communicate. The fact is most all his communicative apps are I-pad only, there is a small smattering available for Android devices. My daughter has a Nabi, which is Android, and she has a 1 st gen i-pad. She has no problem switching between them and all the kids' lap tops are windows machines. We also don't spend a dime on any software, ever for anything Apple.

For us it wasn't so much making the other phone work, it was just slower and quite frankly we are just too used to our I-phones and are not big in to switching. Every phone has their attributes and different people like different platforms.
 

bri

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It seems that Bri dislikes Apple for the opposite reason why so many people liked Apple early on. Back in the early days, Apple was the little guy. They were the counter culture alternative to Microsoft. Now that they've become the big guy, they are now much easier to hate. They are no longer the underdog. The iron ice thing about it though is that Apple made its rise to the top from individual consumers. Microsoft had Office and it became the default platform for businesses and that grew the company to its prominent position.

The funny thing about it is that i bet you could say anything positive about apple and Bri would respond that you are right where apple wants you. I like the way it syncs documents in the cloud between devices. It just makes things so simple. If I add something to a spreadsheet, the changes sync automatically. It makes my life easier. Have I been duped?

I think that the terms and conditions with the digital content is atrocios, but to simply dismiss everything about Apple is contrived.

Contrived? No.

I have deliberately come to the conclusion that Apple does not own my software or hardware once I purchase it. Also I believe that Apple does not just get my computing purchases because they are hands down the easiest platform to use, which they are not.

The reason I corrected "iTunes sucks" to "Apple Sucks" is not because I personally despise Apple, its because Apple wrote the terms, not iTunes.

I like some of Apples products. The Magic Trackpad, Cinema Display and iPod Classic on the top of my list. I like macs especially the air, I spent a BUNDLE on one of the first 16.7M color displays... a MacII in 1987. That's when a GUI really was revolutionary.

The iPhone was revolutionary 2007. No longer the case.

My point on being where Apple wants you was referring specifically to the notion that Apples stuff rocks just because its Apple and that because it is Apple it is the easiest thing to use. I don't think this is the case any longer. So far they have done well. But they are going to have to keep on their toes I think
 
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ArmyRover

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My neighbor has a note and he showed me some cool stuff it does, but Holy Crap that thing is big. I guess that is a big selling point for some, but I think its a little big for me.

For me it is, I love the big screen and the heft of the phone. I also like the fact when I'm texting I don't fat finger shit as much because the keyboard is bigger

My friend just posted this online, no thanks.

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Yeah I know I wouldn't take that Iphone either :D

I have several friends that have them, too big for me. If it doesn't fit in the ass pocket of my jeans, not happening....

Well if you had a big ass like the rest of us that wouldn't be a problem :rofl: It fits perfectly in my shoulder pocket on my ACU's.

I agree no one platform is going to be perfect for everyone, but Android is for me. I'm trying out a ROM my wife built right now. No bloatware, all performance blocks removed I can clock the cpu etc. I know it's faster than my motor sergeants Iphone.

Unhappy with your OS build/modify a new one on Android, can you do that with a Iphone?
 

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I just really have a hard time believing that someone could spend a week or two trying to get a quality mobile phone to work. It's just not that hard. What particular thing was not working after to weeks or so unbearable you had to go get another iphone?
It was just one thing after another. Loss of connectivity with other iPhone users thanks to imessage. No more face time since damn near everyone I know uses an iPhone. Couldn't sync my icloud calendar with my wife. And the last straw was when my exchange account failed to get push email while I was on a 4 day trip in western Washington. I messed with that for probably 4 or 5 hours when I got back. Stupid thing just kept telling me to contact my exchange administrator. I am the exchange administrator, and every other droid phone on my network works perfectly. After that I decided I was done wasting my time.

It was an OK phone, but given all the diehard followers and usability hype I was expecting something really good ... and it wasn't any better than any of the other crap out there.
Yep, that sums up my experience with the GS4.
 

slangel

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Well if you had a big ass like the rest of us that wouldn't be a problem :rofl: It fits perfectly in my shoulder pocket on my ACU's.

I agree no one platform is going to be perfect for everyone, but Android is for me. I'm trying out a ROM my wife built right now. No bloatware, all performance blocks removed I can clock the cpu etc. I know it's faster than my motor sergeants Iphone.

Unhappy with your OS build/modify a new one on Android, can you do that with a Iphone?


LOL! Hells no! It took me two fucking years to get back in my skinny jeans after Christian....god I hate being over 35 and having to work at keeping in shape!
 

bri

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sounds like a bunch of icrap. Sorry... couldn't resist. like I said to mike I would expect that there would be complications with integration w/ apple stuff. but sounds like you have droid working well for other people and this was a phone problem.

EDIT: coming from the outside if Apple stuff, I do not have to deal with icloud, facetime and apple specific apps. But that is where I would expect to have problems with any non-apple device. For exchange, you should at least try touchdown. Has worked great for me.
 
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kennith

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It seems that Bri dislikes Apple for the opposite reason why so many people liked Apple early on. Back in the early days, Apple was the little guy. They were the counter culture alternative to Microsoft. Now that they've become the big guy, they are now much easier to hate. They are no longer the underdog. The iron ice thing about it though is that Apple made its rise to the top from individual consumers. Microsoft had Office and it became the default platform for businesses and that grew the company to its prominent position.

The funny thing about it is that i bet you could say anything positive about apple and Bri would respond that you are right where apple wants you. I like the way it syncs documents in the cloud between devices. It just makes things so simple. If I add something to a spreadsheet, the changes sync automatically. It makes my life easier. Have I been duped?

I think that the terms and conditions with the digital content is atrocious, but to simply dismiss everything about Apple is contrived.

I've disliked Apple for many years.

If they'd had their way, progress in the personal computer market would be limited entirely to the occasional release of a shiny new box. The industry would have been held back dramatically and those boxes aren't nearly as good as people seem to think they are when compared to a real PC.

People have disliked Microsoft for years, for the very reason they should have disliked Apple.

The only reason I didn't buy an Android phone involves trusting Google with a negative magnitude more powerful than the magnitude by which I dislike Apple. I don't want one of their accounts, and I don't want to screw with the damned phone to make it work without one.

Luckily, a Microsoft option was available. It's not as open as Android, but it's more open than you might think, and it works pretty well for a smart phone. I still don't like them, but this isn't as bad as others I've tried.

Cheers,

Kennith
 
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jim-00-4.6

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I have an iPhone 3-something.
It works OK, I can make phone calls & send/receive texts.
I can send & receive email on both my personal and work accounts, which is useful if I'm working outside the office.
yes, it can open .pdfs, but fuck that shit.

I'm not worried about reading documents on my phone, that's why I have a computer.
I don't websurf on my phone, I use a computer for that.
I don't make phone calls on my laptop, that's why I have a phone.
I don't watch movies on my phone, that why I have a (large) television.
Frankly, nothing I do is so amazingly time-sensitve that I have to read a pdf, update a spreadsheet & have a video conference call RIGHT NOW NO MATTER WHAT.

I can call you back tomorrow, after I look at the spreadsheet tonight.
I'll review the document & email you tomorrow.
It'll be fine. Slow down a bit. Relax.
I know this is crazy-talk for some of you hyper-connected, oh-my-god-i-have-to-tweet-this people, but sometimes, I even turn my phone OFF.
I know, right? Actually turn it OFF. And people who call me can leave me a message. Or not.

The iPhone is fine. It's not the be-all and end-all of telecommunications, it's just a phone.
I know people with other brands of phones; they seem to work, too.

I don't really give a shit about the kind of phone I have. It's a phone. It's actually my son's old phone.
I have a watch, too. Granted, I haven't worn it in years, but I have one.
It's not an eleventy-billion dollar astronaut chronograph, accurate to a bajillionth of a second, even 100 miles under the sea.
When I wore it, I didn't feel compelled to make sure everyone knew I had it on.
So no, I didn't take pictures of it to post online.

EULAs suck. Pretty much ALL of them.
What the OP described was some serious bullshit, and Apple sucks donkey balls for doing that.

(the opinions expressed in this post are my own, based on my own experience. getting your panties in a wad because I'm not just like you will change nothing.)
 

mike97d1

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I've disliked Apple for many years.

If they'd had their way, progress in the personal computer market would be limited entirely to the occasional release of a shiny new box. The industry would have been held back dramatically and those boxes aren't nearly as good as people seem to think they are when compared to a real PC.

People have disliked Microsoft for years, for the very reason they should have disliked Apple.

The only reason I didn't buy an Android phone involves trusting Google with a negative magnitude more powerful than the magnitude by which I dislike Apple. I don't want one of their accounts, and I don't want to screw with the damned phone to make it work without one.

Luckily, a Microsoft option was available. It's not as open as Android, but it's more open than you might think, and it works pretty well for a smart phone. I still don't like them, but this isn't as bad as others I've tried.

Cheers,

Kennith


What Microsoft option are you using? I found some of the Lumia's interesting, but was scared to make the leap cause I don't know anyone that uses a windows phone. I know I'm the odd man out, but I've been very happy with the BB Bold 9900, and will probably go to the Q10 if I don't find something more interesting. Hopefully the original CEO will take back over and whip them back into shape.

I think the lesson learned in the thread is that most people like what they are used to and it easy to stay with what you are used to.
 

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What Microsoft option are you using? I found some of the Lumia's interesting, but was scared to make the leap cause I don't know anyone that uses a windows phone. I know I'm the odd man out, but I've been very happy with the BB Bold 9900, and will probably go to the Q10 if I don't find something more interesting. Hopefully the original CEO will take back over and whip them back into shape.

I think the lesson learned in the thread is that most people like what they are used to and it easy to stay with what you are used to.

I've got a Lumia 928.

It's got all the normal smart phone annoyances, such as being difficult to use as a phone. I've got a Kyocera Durapro for that, though.

The Lumia is pretty nice, though. It's somewhat large in relation to others, but I need a screen with buttons I can actually manage to touch. It's nowhere near as big as that gigantic Samsung thing, but it's big enough to comfortably use the actual smart features, which is why you buy the damned things to begin with.

It's got a good camera that serves various purposes, as well. I mean, it's not my Nikon or Panasonic, but it's a good substitute for business requirements. It will blow the doors off most point and shoot cameras; but not the Lumix DMC-ZS8 I have. If you sell things, it's a quick way to get the job done. It would also be good for real estate professionals.

If you plug it into the computer, you can move files about at your leisure. That's nice, and a huge advantage in daily business use. You can also sync it if you are into that iCrap way of doing things and love being bossed around by a tiny little computer.

The interface is nice. The Live Tiles work better on a phone than other options once you get used to them. A number of people are already fucking with them to personalize their phones, and compatible programs are increasing in number. If you want to play with ten million "apps", it's not your thing, but it's growing.

These guys left the phone pretty open to customization with various aftermarket programs and tiles. It doesn't even come with a battery management readout. You just download the one you want. You can delete pretty much anything you want, so you can clear it out almost completely after purchase.

You can turn off whatever the fuck you want easily. If you want quick access, put the functions in a tile on the sweepy front page thing. Both Microsoft and Nokia have provided media functions. Use the one you want, or download another. It doesn't care.

This is a perfect example of Microsoft doing exactly what people refuse to believe.

A lot of phones exist. This is simply one option. It's a good option, though, for someone who wants something different. I like it, anyway.

I still have my other phone for regular use. This is just a business device I can take with me when I need it. No smart phone will work for me as an actual phone. I'm not aware of any that are tough enough that still provide full functionality.

I'd have bought a Sonim if it was a fully functional smart phone. It is not, though, and would have still left me behind the times at a fairly high price. I hate this connected life crap, but I'm stuck with it if I want to make money in everyday life.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

bri

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I agree with Kennith, but have been using google for a while. Google, Apple and MS have done some pretty bad things with our privacy over the years. Kind of ironic, that MS is now the nicer of the three.

Nice little mini review too, thanks.

Still need an itunes replacement. One where I can bring all itunes songs/albums in.
 

bri

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So... has anyone tried any of these. I would like to make some significant purchases and do not want to pay the prices of Amazon or iTunes.


http://www.mp3obsession.com/reviews/

Edit:: Definitely some good and bad. Some not good sample rates. Some with fade in at beginning so you miss first few seconds... many with drawbacks.
 
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bri

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God, I looked at those a year ago and gave up... Either not legit or crap.


Sometime relatively soon, I am going to forget the iTunes stuff and figure out what it takes to get quality lossless. Just moved iTunes to a couple new computers, what a piece of crap.
 

kennith

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God, I looked at those a year ago and gave up... Either not legit or crap.


Sometime relatively soon, I am going to forget the iTunes stuff and figure out what it takes to get quality lossless. Just moved iTunes to a couple new computers, what a piece of crap.

Get the lossless files, drop them on your hard drive, and double click them when you want to listen. That's the Microsoft way; simple, unrestricted, and highly functional. That's all you have to do, if you want.

A number of media organization and playback options are available for those who want more. Microsoft bundles their solution with Windows if you want to use it, but you don't even have to install it if you don't want it. It's become pretty damned good, though, and will rip or burn lossless all day long without bothering you a bit.

It will even interact with your other devices; turning your computer into a self-organizing media server.

Now, I don't like everything being connected, so it's nice to have the option to eliminate all that. I just do it the old fashioned way. I've got a directory on my mass storage drive into which I drop music. I play it through Windows most of the time, but countless alternatives exist.

You don't need iTunes. If you want an all-in-one solution that will do everything, Microsoft has you covered, but so do others, if you just want to try something different.

Now that I've got the Xbox One, I might allow the connection. If I do, I'll be able to access anything I want in the other room.

The funny thing about my network is that I don't really have anything networked.:rofl:

Cheers,

Kennith