Just ordered some tires... LOL

[kennith]

Here's an example of a sucky BFG. These never balanced properly, and began to show the traditional cracking very early on.

A few buildings down, a bunch of cheap Chinese shit tires are still looking great after years and years of sitting and abuse, and a number of off-brand junk tires purchased from junkyards are run all over this area and still balance well and look great.

I see no reason why this sort of nonsense should be endured. This is supposed to be a top-tier and well respected manufacturer.

Fuck BFG, and fuck Michelin too.

Now, that one spent a few rotations as a spare, so the lugs are still sharp. One might argue that the non-spare tires would be better because they've been flexed more often, but they are not. They are simply more fucked up from off pavement use, and display similar cracks between all the fucking blocks.

This is not the first time this has happened with BFG tires. I've owned several BFG sets, and they all pulled this shit. I've got well over a pound of weight on one of them now, and that's happened before.

Meanwhile, all the big trucks around here are happily running around with other brands enjoying tiny weights and solid sidewalls for tens of thousands of miles. To be fair, most of them don't spend any time off pavement, but that's not the point.

As I've said, this is 2014. We should expect more.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[kennith]

Fuck it. I just ordered some of those Goodyear Kevlar things.

It's a great tread design, if not ideal for fast corners. At least I won't be worried in mud. I'll just keep them for general wheeling and day-to-day use. My problem is the name on the side and the dumb-ass Kevlar bullshit. It's no better than anything else.

Goodyear Wrangler MT/R "With Kevlar" reminds me of this:

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I'll give Goodyear one more try. If they don't balance worth a shit, I'll be annoyed. I'm done with that shit in these small sizes. At least they won't rot like the BFGs.

I think Sears will take the others back. If not, I'll sell them. I'm almost certain I can make a profit.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[ERover82]

The Goodyears were the ones you wanted and came back in stock?

 

[kennith]

The Goodyears were the ones you wanted and came back in stock?

They were last on the list of what I would accept (and more of a functional curiosity), but they will work around here very well, and I trust them a bit more for my winter vacations. I'm curious to see how they do in the sand.

They've been out of stock for a while as well, unless you wanted to buy five tires from three different vendors.

I want a set of Grabber AT2s, which did just come back in stock, but I'll get those later, as I need a set of those for longer trips. I just needed some rubber now, and I ordered the Grabber SRLs because they were available.

Now that I can get the Goodyears, I may as well give them a shot. I don't like Goodyear, but it's been a long time since I've given them a chance.

That really is a good tread design for varied use; it just stops short of higher speeds and cornering. That's fine around here, though. I don't expect to go anywhere important anytime soon.

I just don't like what they did with the carcass; on paper. We'll see how it works in reality.

I want to like Goodyear right now. I really do, but it's going to be a hard sell. They've got some cool stuff out there.

http://www.treaddepot.com/prodimg/goodyear-wrangler-all-terrain-adventure-group-large.png

If that's not an old-school Michelin AT or Grabber AT (re-released in Europe as the Grabber TR) with Goodyear stamped on the side, I'm the Queen of England. Rip-off or not, that pattern has proven itself all over the world.

Cheers

Kennith

 

[p m]

They've got some cool stuff out there.

http://www.treaddepot.com/prodimg/goodyear-wrangler-all-terrain-adventure-group-large.png

If that's not an old-school Michelin AT or Grabber AT (re-released in Europe as the Grabber TR) with Goodyear stamped on the side, I'm the Queen of England. Rip-off or not, that pattern has proven itself all over the world.

I have these tires on my wife's LR4. They are simply outstanding. Very round, very quiet, with grip by far better than the original Bridgestones LR4 came from the factory.

 

[ERover82]

I've had satisfactory experience with Goodyear Duratracs so far. They've provided sufficient traction everywhere I've gone including snow, ice, mud, rocks, and hard packed dirt on very rough trails, all while being no louder than my previous ATs.

 

[bri]

I have these tires on my wife's LR4. They are simply outstanding. Very round, very quiet, with grip by far better than the original Bridgestones LR4 came from the factory.

What size? I am wondering what to put on my D1. I'd like 245/75R16, but everything I like is load range E and I am thinking the nice ride it has now might suffer.

Been contemplating these:
Commercial TA Traction

 

[Roving Beetle]

The Commercial TA's are LOUD and ride like crap. Really, skip them!

The Goodyears are a fantastic tire, ive had both the duratracs (on the truck now) and the silent armor type. Both were some of the best all around tires I have ever used. The DT's are BY FAR the best "all terrain" I have ever run.... note I don't call them mud terrains. This is because while they are REALLY GREAT in mud, they are NOT a swamper.

The Silent Armor were about the best road/all terrain tire I have found.

Ive had nothing but good experiences with goodyear lately. That was NOT the case 10 years ago. They have really stepped up their game.

Doug

 

[p m]

What size? I am wondering what to put on my D1. I'd like 245/75R16, but everything I like is load range E and I am thinking the nice ride it has now might suffer.

Been contemplating these:
Commercial TA Traction

It's an LR4, so the best size I found was 255/65R19.

 

[D Chapman]

Those MTRK's are pretty decent. I got about 60,000 miles out of a set of 265/75's. One weird thing about those tires is they suck ass off-road until you air them down. 12psi seemed to be the magic number. Anything more than that they sucked. I ran mine at 9psi on stock alloys.

 

[kennith]

Those MTRK's are pretty decent. I got about 60,000 miles out of a set of 265/75's. One weird thing about those tires is they suck ass off-road until you air them down. 12psi seemed to be the magic number. Anything more than that they sucked. I ran mine at 9psi on stock alloys.

It's a two ply tire. The Kevlar ply is actually two caps (not to be confused with conventional cap plies), one on either side of the tire, wrapping from the bead to slightly over the belt edge.

On paper, my estimation was that the center tread section should behave dramatically different when the tire is aired down.

Apparently, I was correct.

I'd just as soon have preferred they did things the old fashioned way, though. If you want to use Kevlar, use Kevlar. That's fine. Don't pretend it's special enough to replace a full carcass ply with two sidewall plies, though.

I know what they were doing. The idea is to use the flexibility in the center combined with the lower void area, in order to push mud away and better wrap around rocks at lower pressures.

They know people air down, so they made sure performance was actually going to increase when that happens, rather than simply ending up with a longer contact patch.

What they don't seem to understand is proven performance. They are, err... Reinventing the wheel.:rofl:

The Wrangler Adventurer I mentioned earlier is old tech, but far more impressive to me. That tread design was heavily relied upon the world over, but "innovation" had left it behind, even if it is still available on some tires in isolated markets.

It's nice to see that sort of thing come back.

As I've said, I want to like Goodyear, if only because I can't stand others right now. I their quality has improved as much as Mr. Beetle suggests, that would be nice.

Their shit used to be weak as hell and wore very poorly.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[kennith]

I did get lucky at Sears. I returned them, but not after some serious thought and a problematic tire.

Those Grabbers are fucking brick shit-houses. Damn. That's a nice tire, inside and out. In person, it's obvious that they wouldn't be as hopeless in mud as I thought. The compound was very nice, as well; just the right amounts of firm and sticky.

That said, one of them was a dud, and I can't be waiting around for a replacement. Were that not the case, I might have kept them. They didn't look as stupid on the DII wheels as I thought they would, either.

The others balanced nicely, but that one would have required 29 ounces.:rofl:

That's clearly a manufacturing accident, and I wouldn't hold such a thing against a company. Now, if we were talking about large variances in the whole set centered around half that, there would be an issue.

I strongly suggest that you guys living out west try to get your hands on some to have a closer look.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[bri]

The Commercial TA's are LOUD and ride like crap. Really, skip them!

The Goodyears are a fantastic tire, ive had both the duratracs (on the truck now) and the silent armor type. Both were some of the best all around tires I have ever used. The DT's are BY FAR the best "all terrain" I have ever run.... note I don't call them mud terrains. This is because while they are REALLY GREAT in mud, they are NOT a swamper.

The Silent Armor were about the best road/all terrain tire I have found.

Ive had nothing but good experiences with goodyear lately. That was NOT the case 10 years ago. They have really stepped up their game.

Doug

Thanks.... skipped.

 

[DiscoPhoto]

http://www.dunloptyres.com.my/go/system/mod/tyres/opr/view/code/RK3 or bust

 

[bri]

dual purpose seems like a stretch.

 

[cupgt]

http://www.dunloptyres.com.my/go/system/mod/tyres/opr/view/code/RK3 or bust

Gay

 

[fishEH]

http://www.dunloptyres.com.my/go/system/mod/tyres/opr/view/code/RK3 or bust

Trying to gay-up your D1, huh?

I had 265/75 DuraTracs and they were really really good tires. I would say they are the best AT tire on the market. And while they're better than most AT's in the mud they're still no mud tire.
The MTRK's in 315/75/16 may be my next tire, too.

 

[bri]

http://www.roversnorth.com/ProductD...kend&utm_term=Featured-2014-MichelineXZL3_jpg

 

[riceybean]

What about these, I keep looking at them. Anyone run these?

http://www.kumhousa.com/tire/category/truck-suv/8CE40218-BC5C-47D0-AC9C-3207A8C1C3A3

 

[Roving Beetle]

I had those on a Chebby pickup. Fine tire, but when it came to replace them (they lasted OK, but not great) I found they were not that inexpensive and I went with a different tire.

They are fine, but for the costs there are better. But overall I was happy with them and they did great plowing snow. I replaced with general at2 - which were better however not hugely fwiw.

Doug