Land Rover Discovery Outrider... Two doors, a bed, and a bad attitude?

kennith

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Looks like someone stretching out their nutsack.

Kudos to you for getting me to visualize a stretched nutsack before realizing you were just making a point.

Australians might like it, though. They also might like the car. :devilish:

Okay, that devil emoticon just isn't the same...

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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Between this and the Ridgeline, you seem to dig the El Camino-y concepts.

Honest question...

Based on that like and you looking into a Focus a little while back, doesn't the Baja fit your needs?

About half and half, there. I do love a good unibody pickup. It wasn't my original intent here, though. I just let this one flow with a Land Rover car in mind, and it ended up with flying buttresses, and a modular rail/convertible bed arrangement. Only then did I realize I actually really liked it.

A Baja would fit my needs, but it doesn't fit a few wants. I was really after something new, and the Baja isn't new; nor is it old enough to do what I want with. It's got all the regulation that mandates inspections and restricts service/modification, but none of the shine or warranty.

I think they could get away with bringing it back, actually. Indeed, I believe they will. They'll do that, or they'll go full bore and target mid-size units. Ford's coming back with a compact under the Ranger, apparently. Jeep just hit us with the gladiator, Honda is in the game... There's a chance we might have a compact truck Renaissance on our hands if things continue.

That's pretty exciting, seeing as if the stuff on the market now gets one inch bigger, everyone is going to need a damned CDL. :)

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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Land Rover Subaru Brat

It's quite a bit more than that, and a very popular vehicle type throughout the world. Nothing wrong with the brat, it was just an attempt to bypass nonsense regulation. The seats in the back got the job done, for some reason, but left it with a confusing image for Americans.

Utes are typically, rugged, well-used, and appreciated. In a world where useless coupe SUVs are becoming annoyingly popular, dropping the profile even more and adding that bed with it's tricks to create a Land Rover sport ute isn't so crazy an idea. Indeed, it's highly marketable, and would be very capable off-pavement if built on a current platform.

Everything fits. You've got the capability of the Discovery, the performance of something more interesting, and in general potentially the best off-roader in the current lineup, with better mileage, less component stress, better handling, and more practicality. It sheds a lot of mass. The price of entry would be lower, as well, and one would be less likely to feel slighted without the fancy HD option package.

I'd figure on 38-42 entry-level MSRP, with around 50 being the average purchase price, and slightly eclipsing 60 for a decked out model.

They've lost a lot of traction in almost every area that favors these vehicles, and they have never built one. It could be a solid re-entry into markets they've lost for lack of trying, and a draw for younger, more active lifestyle individuals. There's a lot of space available in that thing, and that's a full five foot bed.

Remember: It's not for the grumpy old guard. It's for their newer audience and to hit a market they've ignored, as well as a mass-market offering. The Freelander did the company a heck of a lot of good, even if it sucked here. I think something like this might be able to accomplish the same thing.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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needs a winch/ snorkel/ giant light bar for the tough urban explorer look;)

It's got lights. Those rails on top terminate in removable housings that I didn't really illustrate. Each features an LED driving lamp.

I may gear it up a bit, actually. The way those rails work allows some cool stuff, but I'm not sure if I feel like putting in the effort. Best to try another and get better at it the editing process.

It's only the third fake concept I've done, which is why it's a dead side shot. As I get better, I might do a front/rear, and then try a 3/4. Whatever car that ends up being is pretty much whatever pops in my head. I fed Lincoln some stuff; a pickup and front/mid coupe, and then just figured I'd hit Land Rover for the next one.

Then I thought I'd see how much you all hate it. LMAO

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kade

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It's got lights. Those rails on top terminate in removable housings that I didn't really illustrate. Each features an LED driving lamp.

I may gear it up a bit, actually. The way those rails work allows some cool stuff, but I'm not sure if I feel like putting in the effort. Best to try another and get better at it the editing process.

It's only the third fake concept I've done, which is why it's a dead side shot. As I get better, I might do a front/rear, and then try a 3/4. Whatever car that ends up being is pretty much whatever pops in my head. I fed Lincoln some stuff; a pickup and front/mid coupe, and then just figured I'd hit Land Rover for the next one.

Then I thought I'd see how much you all hate it. LMAO

Cheers,

Kennith


What about the new discovery. 4 doors and a little bed? If you’re just scratching stuff up for shits n gigs
 

kennith

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Most definitely, useless for trips across the border (wall).

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I don't know, man... With 450bhp and Land Rover's new suspension... A good run up and she might make it over; just might not land in one piece. :D

Any challenging, legitimately marketable suggestions? I want to do a few more cars, and I haven't sat down to think what the next one might be.

Lincoln got these:

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Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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That Lincoln Coupe is the first time I've tried to put together a concept that works with factory design language and could genuinely be built, marketed, and sold in limited numbers. I don't think it turned out too bad, but it's obviously not technically perfect, from an editing perspective.

They're all from the side, so
Kennith... do you, or have you ever... had a mullet?

Ps the el Camino is bitchn

No mullet, unfortunately, but it's funny you mentioned that.

I was considering laying a tag-line up there, though, and two were considered before I just decided it was done:

1: Business in the front, adventure in the back.

2: Hell just froze over.

At first it had more rugged and "active" styling, and I was going for something rebellious, but then I decided to make it fit their design language a bit more.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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What about the new discovery. 4 doors and a little bed? If you’re just scratching stuff up for shits n gigs

I honestly don't think it would be a viable move from a production perspective, but I might do a special Range Rover. I've been considering that.

The two Lincolns were "attention grabbers" designed to be limited-production models to generate publicity.

This is just for fun, but I'm still imagining how they'd be built, making sure it's cheap enough, marketing, safety, and even production methods. Each is designed very carefully for a specific market, with themes prepared for release. I'm just playing car manufacturer, here, and using it as an opportunity for thought experiments and marketing challenges. :)
 

kennith

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I saw this the other day in the US. Chevy Tornado/Montana

That Outrider sort of became a ute on it's own, as I genuinely went at it from a "what can they sell world-wide" perspective.

Even so, I really hope we start getting some of this stuff here. I'm confident such vehicles would begin to take over the market with a few years of growth. I'm not sure they can be as goofy-looking as that Chevy, though. They'll need a "cool factor" first.

Pickups and SUVs are reaching critical mass, and people are too uneducated to be driving them. It's not as if they use them, anyway. Some do, but for every ten you see at random, nine have only hauled a few shovels and perhaps a couple of Mexicans. The last person has heavy equipment to tow.

That needs to change, and the only way it will is the provision of another option that has long been unavailable. The Ridgeline is still selling like mad. That says something.

My next project won't be a pickup, though. I'll do another one, but I want to try something else. I thought about a Lotus off-roader, but that's so damned obvious you may as well just re-badge a Samurai with a body kit. Small, light, performance-focused with little utility... Too obvious. Just shrink a Rally Fighter. Done.

Thought about a Honda S3000, but the S2000 still looks brand spanking new. I'm not ready to do my own design just yet, though, so I've got a few ideas to sort through. I need more practice. That Horizon concept is the first time I've ever worked up a car with editing.

I've never been good at painting with a mouse, so this is a frustrating, yet fun experience. I'm surprised nobody has had a crack at my editing skills yet, actually. :LOL:

Cheers,

Kennith
 

Tugela

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As for your Outrider idea, make sure to include a Mad Max variant for the Australians:

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