Lightforce lights

[craig]

Anyone have a photo of 2 lightforce 170s or 240s mounted on a disco 2?

Anyone have any subjective experiences comparing these to the Hella 4000s? They have received very popular reviews from everyone that has tried them, but I don't see anyone here using them.

Thanks,
--Craig

 

[nickb857]

Here in the tech section is just what you were looking for.
http://www.discoweb.org/jay/lightforce.htm

 

[craig]

heh heh... and I have been googling, browsing the photo gallery, etc for hours.

Thanks!

--Craig

 

[craig]

Anyone have anymore? I am trying to see what it would look like with two 240s mounted very close to each other in the center. I want to get 2 of the 240 HIDs, but I am afraid that they will be too big and look ugly.

All of the photos in the tech section have 2 mounted far apart, or 3 completely hiding the grill.

 

[nickb857]

This site has some cool pics and free shipping. Also an awesome video of the lights getting shot. Thought i would pass it along.
http://www.alphaaccessories.com/LightForce.htm

 

[Krawler]

1,500 bucks for 2 lights thats friggin insane there are so many other things you could spend all that money on.

 

[Sergei]

1500 bucks will buy you HID Blitz.. Trust me - you dont need those, unless you feel like giving signals to aliens. Regular version of 240 gives you about mile of distance. You simply dont need that much, b/c if you driving 60m/h you got entire minute to react. And perfect reaction time is 5-7s. So you got whole lot of slack

Craig - you dont want them to be too close to each other on Disco in middle - will block either view or approaching angle or block normal airflow. Also - you dont really need them to be close to each other b.c of lenses and beam being wide and powerfull enough to have no reason to overlap.

 

[craig]

I *think* I agree with all of the feedback. Independently, I came to a similar conclusion last night.

I was hoping to avoid 4-6 Hellas by using the HIDs with the diffusor filter to spread the light across the trail, and use amber fog lenses the rest of the time (on-road). I definately don't need to see a mile down the road. It sounds like they will be too bright and likely illegal to use on the road though. I also liked that they are water sealed.

The Lightforce 170s have similar features; adjustable dispersal pattern and swappable filters. Unfortunately they are not water sealed.

And, I am still considering Hella 4ks, but they don't seem to have the flexibility of the Lightforce lights.

--Craig

 

[campbell]

IIt sounds like they will be too bright and likely illegal to use on the road though.

I thought the only thing "legal" to use on-road were the Hella 500's or equivalent.

 

[Mike_Rupp]

Do yourself a favor and get the Hella 4K. What are you looking to achieve with the additional lights? If you are looking for a wide field of vision when off-roading, get the cornering lights. If you are looking for driving lights, get the euro. I've got 1 cornering and 2 euro on my Disco and it is a nice combo for offroading and street.

 

[billmallin]

I agree with Mike.

I have three 4Ks on the front of "Sherman" (two cornering and a Euro in the middle) and it's like the fucking sun comes out when I turn them on.

 

[Iron Boots]

Hey guys,

Here's my scoop on the lightforce lights...

I have seen the LF lights used and got a chance to play with them on and off the rig.

I think they feel very cheap and not too sturdy...that is just my impression.

I think the focusing feature just reinforces that they put very little time into designing the lenses.

This is just my impression. I'd much rather go with even hella 3000's (plastic housing) than the Light Force units.

RJ

 

[craig]

Do yourself a favor and get the Hella 4K. What are you looking to achieve with the additional lights? If you are looking for a wide field of vision when off-roading, get the cornering lights. If you are looking for driving lights, get the euro. I've got 1 cornering and 2 euro on my Disco and it is a nice combo for offroading and street.

I want cornering lamps for off-road. I am struggling to give up my fog lamps for on-road use. I do most of my daily-driving in Washington State where it rains and snows a lot and thought this might be a solution that doesn't require multiple sets of lights to be mounted.

--Craig

 

[craig]

Thanks for the feedback it is helping me make my decision. Subjective opinions are hard to gather from manufacturer/retailer websites, and even from magazine articles that have paid advertisers.

I know there are a ton of people running Hellas here on discoweb. I am trying to know what I am buying (pros and cons) before spending the money. Could you guys help me out with a few questions about them?

How often do you guys take a rock and have to replace the lens? Are the clear protectors enough?

Do they shake much off-road?

Do they hold their position once set or do you have to readjust them?

How submersible are they?

Thanks.
--Craig

 

[billmallin]

How often do you guys take a rock and have to replace the lens? Never.

Are the clear protectors enough? So far.

Do they shake much off-road? They do not shake at all.

Do they hold their position once set or do you have to readjust them? Never have to re-adjust them.

How submersible are they? At least this submersible... http://www.houstonlandroverclub.com/photos/CBA/roll3/DSCF0006.jpg

 

[jmoore]

I run 4K's and love them. I have the driving lights mounted on a LR bar. Up here in the winter, the plows throw alot of salt and rocks, so I run the plastic shields on my hellas and driving lights. Works well.

I would also echo what Bill says above. No vibes, I've never had to readjust.

 

[craig]

Well it certainly sounds like there is a lot of love for Hellas here which they have certainly earned.

I really wanted to get a dual purpose lamp (fog / flood). The guess the experiences of people here is to choose one or the other rather than use the "cheap plasticy" light force lamps? Are they really that bad?

How well do the the Hella 4k fogs on the bumper do at lighting up a trail? Or should I just give in and go with the cornering lights.

--Craig

 

[Iron Boots]

Well it certainly sounds like there is a lot of love for Hellas here which they have certainly earned.

I really wanted to get a dual purpose lamp (fog / flood). The guess the experiences of people here is to choose one or the other rather than use the "cheap plasticy" light force lamps? Are they really that bad?

How well do the the Hella 4k fogs on the bumper do at lighting up a trail? Or should I just give in and go with the cornering lights.

--Craig

For the same money as the LF's you can score some 968 IPFs....I love Hella 4k's but for like $130 or so the IPFs wail on the LF's...

 

[Doug W]

I've been running the LF 240's on my 110 for over a year now and they kick ass! I've won the NVTR with 'em. The amount of light they throw is tremendous and you can narrow them down to a laser beam with the adjustment. With the wide-beam rock cover they give plenty of side light as well. I can lead-foot it across the Nevada badlands and still see wash outs in time to avoid knocking my teeth out.

They are very lightweight, almost flimsy, but they've taken a lot of crap on the front of my rig and survived. They do block a lot of air. I have 'em mounted with wing nuts and quick-release plugs, so I can pull 'em off fast in the daytime if the truck gets too hot.

DW

 

[bigred]

I second the IPF's. 130w each is plenty bright enough for me.