longtracks / longfields wtf?
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justinhaaga said:yep, I must be crazy. I should of got a toy!
99 d1 white 129k virgin as can be with side steps and all! oh its in for it. I'll post some pics of it later.
sweet deal!! welcome back
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flyfisher11 said:
Flyfisher, where'd you get that pic? That looks like one of the HILUX's the SEALS use. The company I work for did some "shake-down" tests of that truck. It's got some neat little "tricks" on it! I got to check a coupla' of them out.
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MUSKYMAN said:
But, if we use Mike's model, we should price them as high as the market will bear. Before Keith entered the market, the market would bear the higher price
Pricing when you are the only company in the marketplace is a challenging proposition. Do you price really high and sell a few or sell it lower and sell more? Its not as simple as just pricing at the market. But why for God's sake would you price something lower than the market and leave money on the table?
Cost plus pricing is one of the quickest ways to go out of business.
Cost plus pricing is one of the quickest ways to go out of business.
Price the market.. What will people spend? What would I spend? How many people will spend? Sell 100 widgets that cost $450 for $600 each at a $150 profit margin or sell a 50 widgets that cost $450 each for $750 at a 300 dollar profit margin it's all the same right?
I personlly don't think so my guess is that if I sell the widets at $600 I'll sell more of them so my profits go up (not per unit but up) My wholesaler or manufacturer should be happier because he'll sell more and make his payroll and pay the bills, the customer will be happier because he spent less on the widget, now because he's happy with me he'll come back and by more stuff, as long as my banker is happy and I can make the $$$ I need to everyone except the guy selling the widget for $750 is happy
I personlly don't think so my guess is that if I sell the widets at $600 I'll sell more of them so my profits go up (not per unit but up) My wholesaler or manufacturer should be happier because he'll sell more and make his payroll and pay the bills, the customer will be happier because he spent less on the widget, now because he's happy with me he'll come back and by more stuff, as long as my banker is happy and I can make the $$$ I need to everyone except the guy selling the widget for $750 is happy
Blue said:
Actually... $1350.00 with tires and a lift.
I was actually able to buy the materials and a new Hobart welder with gas hook up for less than I could buy a bumper. Now my bumper isn't great but it works and looks O.K. The bonus is my rear bumper will cost about $100.00 and the sliders about the same. In the end I still keep the welder.
As for the cv's I can't make them but I can carry used spares. I would go back to stock tires before I would pay even $900.00 for them. $1400.00 is insane unless you are trying to get out of Africa. Even then one should take it easy on the truck and try not to abuse it.
I HATE PONIES said:Actually... $1350.00 with tires and a lift.
I was actually able to buy the materials and a new Hobart welder with gas hook up for less than I could buy a bumper. Now my bumper isn't great but it works and looks O.K. The bonus is my rear bumper will cost about $100.00 and the sliders about the same. In the end I still keep the welder.
As for the cv's I can't make them but I can carry used spares. I would go back to stock tires before I would pay even $900.00 for them. $1400.00 is insane unless you are trying to get out of Africa. Even then one should take it easy on the truck and try not to abuse it.
When I first got into Rovers about 10 years ago, all I ever heard was that the driveline is crap and it will break so you have to spend all this cash on upgraded pieces parts. I never broke a thing. And I didn't always take it easy, either. There were times when I got a little happy with the go pedal and the only casualty was that stupid rubber donut that some British moron decided was a good way to connect the rear shaft to the diff. But then again, I also wasn't running big ass clown tires....I never seemed to need those either.
X2 Blue. All I have to do is take a look at the Camel Trophy video and see what a relatively stock DI will get you through or at least eventually will. haha.
Shit starts breaking when you add those clown tires, thus the apparent NEED to add all the beef. Then again climbing all over car size bolders does not get me off.
I am sure you could come up with an analogy that relates to sluts or something. Maybe along the lines of a high maintenence woman always needing more and more until one day you find yourself in the fetal position, in a bath tub, inside a trailer, outside of Texarkana.
Shit starts breaking when you add those clown tires, thus the apparent NEED to add all the beef. Then again climbing all over car size bolders does not get me off.
I am sure you could come up with an analogy that relates to sluts or something. Maybe along the lines of a high maintenence woman always needing more and more until one day you find yourself in the fetal position, in a bath tub, inside a trailer, outside of Texarkana.
emmodg said:
I dont agree.
Not breaking stuff is a driving skill that can be learned to a great extent.
Off road racers do it for sure.
simple things like "off ground off gas" can go a long way to preventing driveline failure.
People that break stuff seem to keep breaking stuff where as people that have smooth driving styles and balence the use of momentum with taking advantage of traction when they have it can often drive through things with much less stress on the drivetrain.
MUSKYMAN said:
Yes, it's all in the "smooth as butter" approach. Tire up in the air, spinning, then coming down hard is the path to failure. A rear locker helps too. The only time I ran into trouble was repeatedly throwing my Disco at the side that stupid pile of dust at the entrance to Truckhaven. But I blame my copilot Roberto and his friends named dos equis for that. But we made it up and only sacrificed another rotobomb.
garrett said:
That need to upgrade with bigger & stronger parts just keeps going round & round in a circle. First you add a lift. Then big tires. Then HD CV's, HD axles, then beef up the diff, then fuck with the gearing to keep this big heavy thing moving, then come the driveshafts, then for some reason magnecor plug wires always make an appearance.
Don't get me wrong....a well built rig is a thing of beauty and you can never fault someone for beefing up their driveline and having good quality parts (especially the parts that don't earn you visible bling factor). But I do have to question the wisdom of putting $1400 worth of beef on a truck that's worth a couple grand, especially when a lot of people are just fine with the stock driveline.
If I had all the money in the world (which I don't) then I'd build the biggest, baddest, heaviest duty motherfucker in the world. I'd wax it and armor-all the clown tires and park it in my mammoth garage/museum. Then I'd buy a stocker, add a locker, and beat the living shit out of it with a grin from here to Texarkana.