Maglite is the Worst Flashlight on the Market

SGaynor

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That's awesome. Lets you see the bloody corpse after you bludgeon the guy to death.

Exactly.

Add a red lens filter and really add to the experience.

Another good option, in baseball bat configuration:
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SGaynor

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Those simple $3, $4, or $5 LED flashlights at the Autozone or similar auto parts checkout lane are fine. I have a few of those in various drawers around the house, on my workbench, in the center console of my little car, etc. I think I'm inheriting my father's sickness - at his house you're never more than 2 steps away from an LED flashlight. They're in just about every drawer...has become a family joke. These things put out a good amount of realistic working light for most tasks. LED technology has changed the game for the former uber-elite flashlight manufacturers. That said, I do keep my LED conversion Surefire on hand at night but it's not there to help me find the toilet paper.

I've got a Surefire Defender E2 that I bought probably 12ish years ago. When I bought that it was like I had the sun in my pocket (albeit for about 2.5hours). I would love to get it in LED, but $230? Fuuuuck that.

I've got 3 of those Nebo Slydes (the smaller one: 1 in the truck, 1 in the kitchen, 1 in garage/tools). I paid 30$ each. They are great.

Now I want the Slyde King - that thing is awesome. Bigger, brighter, 4x focus, dimmable, rechargable and a red light (for the flood). All for $36 from Amazon.

Why anyone would pay more than $50 for a flashlight these days is beyond me. Hell, some of the ones on the chinese website Kennith put up are less than $5.
 

Blue

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I've got a Surefire Defender E2 that I bought probably 12ish years ago. When I bought that it was like I had the sun in my pocket (albeit for about 2.5hours). I would love to get it in LED, but $230? Fuuuuck that.

I've got 3 of those Nebo Slydes (the smaller one: 1 in the truck, 1 in the kitchen, 1 in garage/tools). I paid 30$ each. They are great.

Now I want the Slyde King - that thing is awesome. Bigger, brighter, 4x focus, dimmable, rechargable and a red light (for the flood). All for $36 from Amazon.

Why anyone would pay more than $50 for a flashlight these days is beyond me. Hell, some of the ones on the chinese website Kennith put up are less than $5.

Check out Malkoff products to convert the Surefire to LED. Makes a huge difference, especially on battery life.
 

SGaynor

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Check out Malkoff products to convert the Surefire to LED. Makes a huge difference, especially on battery life.

$130 for the E2 (whole front light assembly) :ack:

That's how much I paid for the whole light originally.
 

ERover82

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I know what I'm getting with most name brand lights. Aliexpress is a crap shoot. The specs are bullshit and the descriptions are Chingrish. If I want a cheap Chinese light to throw photons randomly I'll go to Harbor freight. If I want specific optics, features, LED bins, color temperature, CRI, driver, battery life, charging, etc I'll buy a name brand light.
 
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Blue

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$130 for the E2 (whole front light assembly) :ack:

That's how much I paid for the whole light originally.

Oh shit, didn?t realize that. Not worth it. Get the gangsta brass knuckle beater pipe light.
 

kennith

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I know what I'm getting with most name brand lights. Aliexpress is a crap shoot. The specs are bullshit and the descriptions are Chingrish. If I want a cheap Chinese light to throw photons randomly I'll go to Harbor freight. If I want specific optics, features, LED bins, color temperature, CRI, driver, battery life, charging, etc I'll buy a name brand light.

...and in doing so, you'll be buying several cheap Chinese parts that have been assembled together and branded; and the specifications will still be bullshit.

You may as well pay for an ARB or Viar compressor, while you're at it.

You're not getting anything too special with most of the name brand lights. I've seen unbranded flashlights for less than $30 that would give a bumper spot lamp a solid whipping.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

ERover82

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In addition to the previous considerations, I could go on about square cut threads, coated optics, standards based testing, switch quality, throw, hot spots, CREE rip-off emitters, spare parts, battery quality and compatibility, waterproofing, heatsink materials and mounting, emitter centering, types of reflectors, etc but I dont have time. Buy what you want. Candlepowerforums reviews may be enlightening.
 

kennith

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In addition to the previous considerations, I could go on about square cut threads, coated optics, standards based testing, switch quality, throw, hot spots, CREE rip-off emitters, spare parts, battery quality and compatibility, waterproofing, heatsink materials and mounting, emitter centering, types of reflectors, etc but I dont have time. Buy what you want. Candlepowerforums reviews may be enlightening.

Those are great points I'll enjoy exploring with you. There's a lot of really fun stuff going on in all that.

For now, I'm about to watch a live show I've been waiting for for several years. :D

Cheers,

Kennith
 

ERover82

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Try this with a $10 light..

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JUKE179r

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Try this with a $10 light..

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Now... if he batters it up, deep fries it like tempura and it still works, then I will be impressed. lol
 

kennith

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Try this with a $10 light..

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It's honestly not all that impressive when you're talking about LEDs and aluminum bodies of that shape and mass.

I used to beat the snot out of lights. Striking a massive, tapered aluminum barrel insulating a tiny LED system against a thin piece of steel stuck in wood isn't exactly torture for the LED or it's associated systems. You're just dinging up your aluminum for no good reason.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

jim-00-4.6

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... If I want specific optics, features, LED bins, color temperature, CRI, driver, battery life, charging, etc I'll buy a name brand light.
Yeah, but WHY?
This is a FLASHLIGHT, not a stadium fixture, or an operating room light, or emergency lighting for your nuclear bunker.
It's a flashlight.
Don't get me wrong, I have daily applications where optics, color temperature, power consumption, etc are real considerations.
My flashlight is not included in any of those applications.
 

kennith

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Yeah, but WHY?
This is a FLASHLIGHT, not a stadium fixture, or an operating room light, or emergency lighting for your nuclear bunker.
It's a flashlight.
Don't get me wrong, I have daily applications where optics, color temperature, power consumption, etc are real considerations.
My flashlight is not included in any of those applications.

There are only a few such considerations with flashlights, and all are handily erased by even cheap units.

People have become confused as a result of all this "tactical" stuff, and as a result, it's hard to find a well-made utility light that's properly designed for the task.

That thing in the video is not a utility light. It's a spot lamp/search light that's doing something nearly anything shaped like that will do.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

ERover82

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Buy Walmart tools. Who cares about tolerances, metallurgy, longevity, efficiency, design, warranty, support? A tool's a tool.