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D Chapman

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So, why this system? Well, it does everything. The maps are upgradable from Garmin including Topo, bluetooth, iPod, two USB connections, satilite radio with traffic and whether features, and you retain the factory stereo and 6-disk CD changer. The deal-breaker on a lot of the avaliable systems was that the maps were shitty and not upgradable. Also, a lot of the "better" systems that would install in the vehicle were going to be a PITA to fit because no one is making a double DIN install kit for the LR3, yet.

The dash top GPS systems were not an option. That's old skool.
 

Nomar

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I wonder how much Crutchfield woulda charged for the install?
Better yet, tell Crutchfield to call you for a consulting fee $$$ when someone brings in their LR3 to get this job done...;) ;)
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Nomar said:
I wonder how much Crutchfield woulda charged for the install?
Better yet, tell Crutchfield to call you for a consulting fee $$$ when someone brings in their LR3 to get this job done...;) ;)
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Well, total install time for me was 12-hours start to clean up. Crutchfield would probably have more than one person working on the install at any-given-time, so their install time would be cut back a few hours. In either case, it would not be cheap. I would not do this for less than $500.00. Weather Crutchfield is cheaper than that I don't know. But it's a pretty involved install.

Now that I have the wiring figured out for the LR3 stereo, I could probably do it a bit faster. Figuring out the wiring was a bitch. It's not standard shit with the High-Line stereo.
 

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DC, nice thread. Looks like you did a fair amount of research on this initially. I have read that the factory head unit was connected to the ECU in some fashion, and if removed, would lobotomize the truck. In your research, did you come across the same issue?

Also, was the A-Pillar difficult to remove or complicated by the airbags? That's one of the few pieces of my interior that I have not removed yet. That big SRS symbol has scared me away from it.
 
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The streo is in fact connected to the ECU. Why, I have no fucking clue. It's dumb if you ask me. But, there are two wires labled "CAN". I don't know what they do but that go to some sort of ECU.

In either case, I do not think removing the stereo will make the truck go "lobo". I've seen other installs where aftermarket stereos have been installed. Also, Kenwood UK is now making a dash kit to fit aftermarket double-DIN stereos.

As for the A-pillar removal, I'm sure it just snaps out with those POS clips. But I did not need to remove the A-pillar trim/airbag. I was able to tuck the wire in behind the airbag.
 

adriatic04

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I am thinking about getting the kenwood single DIN unit that has the same features, including the add on GPS. It is for the disco so it needs to be single DIN.

Anyhow, my deal breaker to finding this unit was the NAV option, which is by Garmin. How is the NAV interface, etc.? It is easy to use and play music, correct?
 
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D Chapman said:
no one is making a double DIN install kit for the LR3, yet.

Kenwood Part number CAW-1260-O2 (They call them “fitting kits” in the UK)


 

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That's the part number for all Land Rovers if you look closley. Also, that pic you posted in not the LR3.

I don't know the correct part number for the LR3, but that's not it. Research has also told us that the kit is trimmed in black, not grey. By being black, that's going to be a deal-breaker for a lot of people.
 
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adriatic04 said:
I am thinking about getting the kenwood single DIN unit that has the same features, including the add on GPS. It is for the disco so it needs to be single DIN.

Anyhow, my deal breaker to finding this unit was the NAV option, which is by Garmin. How is the NAV interface, etc.? It is easy to use and play music, correct?

The nav interface seems to be pretty good. Granted I've only played with it a little bit, but Tami might be able to chime in and tell you a bit more.
 
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D Chapman said:
That's the part number for all Land Rovers if you look closley. Also, that pic you posted in not the LR3.

I don't know the correct part number for the LR3, but that's not it. Research has also told us that the kit is trimmed in black, not grey. By being black, that's going to be a deal-breaker for a lot of people.

http://www.kenwood-electronics.co.uk/technologies/double-din/fitting_kits

That photo is from Kenwood, of a LR2. They have the same stereo and the same part number. I will get some photos of mine once I get around to installing it.
 

sideview

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adriatic04 said:
I am thinking about getting the kenwood single DIN unit that has the same features, including the add on GPS. It is for the disco so it needs to be single DIN.

Anyhow, my deal breaker to finding this unit was the NAV option, which is by Garmin. How is the NAV interface, etc.? It is easy to use and play music, correct?

The interface is pretty intuitive. It took a little figuring out at first (like with most gadgets), but after a few runs through it's a piece of cake.
 

adriatic04

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sideview said:
The interface is pretty intuitive. It took a little figuring out at first (like with most gadgets), but after a few runs through it's a piece of cake.

so all in all, worth it? I am unsure how this install will go on mine, since it is an S model disco, no amp?? But if I go with it, I am getting a kenwood, soley for the garmin interface. also want to have the option to see navi while listening to music.
 
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Oh yea, I did forget to tell you the install looks damn good, I am very impressed with the twelve hours. It takes me that long just to get my wife to move her car out of the garage and find my tools.
 

sideview

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adriatic04 said:
so all in all, worth it? I am unsure how this install will go on mine, since it is an S model disco, no amp?? But if I go with it, I am getting a kenwood, soley for the garmin interface. also want to have the option to see navi while listening to music.

It was totally worth it for me. I bounced around a lot of options for a long time and this wound up being the best fit for what I wanted - keeps the stock head unit (since there's nothing wrong with it IMO) with all the controls in tact, uncluttered set-up with all wires & gizmos out of site, lots of expansion possibilities, nice user interface, and have everything running through the same speakers. I also like that with Garmin nav you can swap out different maps on SD cards.

The base stereo is supposed to be an easier upgrade, it's going through the amp that makes it start to get ugly.
 
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sideview

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CoyGlasscock said:
http://www.kenwood-electronics.co.uk/technologies/double-din/fitting_kits

That photo is from Kenwood, of a LR2. They have the same stereo and the same part number. I will get some photos of mine once I get around to installing it.

I've seen those photos. It will be really interesting to see the LR3 install. Which entertainment system are you installing? If the black trim ends up looking out of place (hard to tell until it's in place) you could always have it color coded to the console.
 
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adriatic04 said:
I am unsure how this install will go on mine, since it is an S model disco, no amp??


In your case the install would be a cake-walk compared to the High-Line radio. The amp caused some trouble only because there was no good wiring diagram I had access to. The fiber optic really threw me for a loop and I got a bit confused during the install. That caused me over an hour of studying the wiring, the diagrams, and then figuring out how to attach everything to keep all the options Tami wanted I.E. steering wheel controls.

I did not know the Low-Line did not have an amp. But, if that's the case, and if you're considering the KOS-V1000, or even the KOS-V500, which I would highly recommend, you would only tap into the speaker-level outputs of the Low-Line radio. Meaning, you would find the wires going from your stereo to the speakers, cut the wires about 2" from the wiring harness, and then extend the speaker wires to the AV controller. This is pretty elementary stuff.

You would then need to plug the harness back into the radio and pick two channels (speakers) to send audio to the AV controller. So, out of the speaker wires you cut, pick two and extend them to the AV controller (a left and a right)

From there, it's just a matter of running a cable for the touch screen and plugging in the GPS.
 
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I had the Kenwood 719 single din "fold-out" screen in the Disco II with Garmin, Sirus, Ipod and Bluetooth. I keep everything except the headunit and now have a kenwood 512 to mount in the LR3. I also plan to replace the amp and the speakers. I also plan to install a CB in the location of the ashtry and use the factory center channel speaker for the CB. I will also mount a Kenwood D710 Ham radio in the same cubby hole you mounted your screen. I am hoping to have time to do this in July. Everything is in the garage and waiting. I'll post pics as soon as I am done.

For the last year I have run the system you have now, and I assure you you will continue to love it. Great choice. My wife has the same set-up but in Alpine. The Kenwood with Garmin is a better choice for off-road.