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Alabama Rover

Alabama Rover

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my rover just left me stranded in the woods, luckily we caught a ride with someone. This is what happened, we were riding along and saw a stream, so we stopped to get out and look at it. Got back in the rover and tried to start it and it turns over but it is like it is not getting any fuel. I checked and it has pressure in the fuel rail but when you press the gas pedal it does not help it at all. When I turn the ignition on I can not here the fuel pump running, but then again I never could. Anyone have any Ideas, I am going back out to try and get it home.

Thanks guys
 
MontrealRR90

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You should hear the pump run if you get your ear close enough.After that if its not running check for a fuse or the connections on the fuel pump.
 
ptschram

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Timmy!!!!!!! said:
Crankshaft position sensor ??
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C'mawn Timmy. Let's check to see if we have spark and fuel before we condemn a part that won't be any fun to replace in the woods.

Bleed all of the fuel pressure off, turn the key on several times, check for fuel pressure. IF you have fuel, pull a plug wire, put it near something metal at ground potential, turnt he key to crank the engine looking for spark. If no spark, it MIGHT be the CkPS (or any of a huge number of other things).
 
Alabama Rover

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Well i got it home, went back in the woods and it cranked on the first try. I called Disco Mike and one of the things he told me was if the fuel filter was partly clogged or clogged all the way the fuel pump will over heat and shut down and that once it cools down it might start back up, I am thinking this may be what happened and it drove fine on the way home. Also since I just put some seafoam in the fuel tank it probably loosened up a bunch of trash. So I am going to try changing the fuel filter and see what happens, I know it can't hurt.
Thanks for the offer micheals, but I know you are too far away. Does anyone else have any more ideas as to why this happened.
 
RVRSRVC

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Why is there trash in the tank? That's not where it goes. If the fuel filter is clogged, why is running now? I'm fairly certain that the fuel pump doesn't have a thermal reset. Stepping on the gas pedal does what? Tells the ECU that you are no longer at idle? At wide open throttle/clear flood mode?
I'm concerned that guessing could get expensive; it's a shame there wasn't more diagnosis available when the condition was present-like fuel pressure again after you opened the fitting or presence of spark.
Now, you did suggest there was a period of heat soak as you shut the engine off for a few minutes. MAYBE that is a small clue.
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Chris-St Louis

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Alabama Rover said:
Well i got it home, went back in the woods and it cranked on the first try. I called Disco Mike and one of the things he told me was if the fuel filter was partly clogged or clogged all the way the fuel pump will over heat and shut down and that once it cools down it might start back up,
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:eek: Overheat and shut down? Wow, thats a reach. I would look more to a loose/corroded connection. Thats more likely.
 
Alabama Rover

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RVRSRVC said:
Why is there trash in the tank? That's not where it goes.

I am assuming that there was some debris in the tank, do not really know for sure.

If the fuel filter is clogged, why is running now?

The grace of the Rover Gods (not sure)

Stepping on the gas pedal does what? Tells the ECU that you are no longer at idle? At wide open throttle/clear flood mode?

It would crank and run for a few seconds then die like it was starving for gas.

I'm concerned that guessing could get expensive; it's a shame there wasn't more diagnosis available when the condition was present

I worry about the same thing.

like fuel pressure again after you opened the fitting or presence of spark.

Had spark since it would start and run for a few seconds. If I held my hand over the air intake it would run a little longer, but still act like it was not getting fuel, even when the throttle was moved back and forth.

Now, you did suggest there was a period of heat soak as you shut the engine off for a few minutes. MAYBE that is a small clue.
Tell us more!
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I would say that it sat for about ten minutes max before I tried to start it. When the ignition was in the third position(where all the gages work)
the temp gage was where it always is(a little under the halfway point)

I would say that all in all it sat in the woods for about 2.5 to 3 hours before I was able to get back to it. When I got there it cranked right up on the first try. Where would you start to try and diagnos this problem? I did not have any engine lights come on. I have not checked to see if it has any codes stored yet either.
I am not trying to be a smartass, just trying to figure this out.

Thanks in advance for everyones help
 
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Alabama Rover

Alabama Rover

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This may be a stupid ass question, but I am looking at the Rave CD and it list 4 different fuel systems. I know I do not have the tdi system, so which one is it that is on the 98 model D1.Also is the filter available at any parts store??
 
rovercanus

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The reason Disco Mike does not grace this board anymore is because of the stupid advice he gave.
What he told you pretty much takes the cake.
 
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