New Discovery II Enthusiast In Houston

dgosh28

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KyleT said:
what is pass lock? I never reset anything when I swapped out an ignition switch.

I guess it is the theft device. The truck is acting like a kill switch has activated. It probably has more to do with the key than the actual ignition switch.
 

dgosh28

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paxton said:
RRCs or D1s are the way to go, in my humble opinion. They have their own issues, but still...

BTW, I've owned a D1, D2, LR3, and a RRC. I wish I'd never sold my D1.

Good luck, though. See if you can find an independent Rover shop.

I think you are right. I need an indy. I'll call around next week and see what I can find. Also, I actually bought 2 replacement ignitions. I tried the one with the programmable key first. Maybe I should try the one with the metal keys and see what happens.
 

Jake

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shaft rebuild by a shop is the way to go on stock truck. They will balance it, something you most likely can't do at home. Was quoted $175.00 for total rebuild and balance at a local driveline shop.

if you switched locks and keys on a DII and did not put your chip (in the plastic part on the new key, then it most likely won't start from what I have read here.
 

dgosh28

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Jake said:
shaft rebuild by a shop is the way to go on stock truck. They will balance it, something you most likely can't do at home. Was quoted $175.00 for total rebuild and balance at a local driveline shop.

if you switched locks and keys on a DII and did not put your chip (in the plastic part on the new key, then it most likely won't start from what I have read here.

That seems like a great price. I was quoted $225, but I haven't shopped around. This place is close and the other driveline shops are quite far from me.
The key that came with the truck has the buttons and everything inside missing, as far as I know. The truck would start with it, but it was hit or miss if the cylinder would turn. I plan to put in the cylinder with the metal keys and see if I can use that one for now.
 

kennith

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I'd just buy one. Fuck it.

You could rebuild your own later, and enjoy the truck now. A few people offer them near $200. They aren't super-duper overland pimp, but they will connect your axle to your transfer case and spin around without breaking.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

KyleT

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dgosh28 said:
I guess it is the theft device. The truck is acting like a kill switch has activated. It probably has more to do with the key than the actual ignition switch.

There is no chip in the key.
 

dgosh28

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kennith said:
I'd just buy one. Fuck it.

You could rebuild your own later, and enjoy the truck now. A few people offer them near $200. They aren't super-duper overland pimp, but they will connect your axle to your transfer case and spin around without breaking.

Cheers,

Kennith

Your advise makes a lot of sense. I don't plan to take the truck anywhere where I need an extreme shaft anyway. I just want to make it reliable enough to be a daily driver. Do you have a brand recommendation or do I just source one locally?
 

dgosh28

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KyleT said:
There is no chip in the key.

What would need to be programmed then? Something in the ignition switch itself? when I inquired about buying a new key for the original ignition, before I knew it was messed up, The dealer told me I had to make an appt. so they could program it.
 

hafaday

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dgosh28 said:
What would need to be programmed then? Something in the ignition switch itself?

Possibly needs to be matched to the BCU.. I'm not sure on this one.

dgosh28 said:
when I inquired about buying a new key for the original ignition, before I knew it was messed up, The dealer told me I had to make an appt. so they could program it.

If you bought a key with the FOB/Remote (key built into the remote), then yes, it will need to be programmed. the remote, that is. if it's just a key, pending on who cuts it it will work. supposedly some keys with no remote are some kind'a valet key (door, but no ignition). but a standard key can be cut and work fine, pending you find a good key cutter.

I had a second key cut. popped the key out of the fob, guy cuts key, key works.

Seventyfive was right...... some threads are in the wrong section. granted, it started as a Hello, now it's tech. Either way... hope you get it fixed.
 

Corprin

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dgosh28 said:
I finished replacing the ignition switch only to find that the kill switch is activated and the truck won't start. I called the dealer and they said that the pass lock has to be re- programmed at a tune of $199. In addition to that it will cost me about $150 for a tow to the dealer. I'm really not feeling the love for this truck at the moment. Any suggestions?

$349?


https://blackbox-solutions.com/shop/

Nanocom evo, and do it all yourself.
 

kennith

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ArmyRover said:

That's the one I was going to link. :D

If he's out of them, there are others here who can provide.

Just get it done. Screw waiting around. You've got a vehicle to enjoy. A DII isn't made of glass. The non-serviceable shaft was just a stupid choice for something that close to a cat.

Get a new one and drive the thing.

As for the key, you don't need anything special. I've got several remote-equipped keys, but only for convenience around town. When I'm out and about, I don't fuck with them. I just use a plain metal key. Blanks are readily available.

The remotes are only remotes. They serve no other purpose. They are only on the key to make it look cool and modern.

If your key is acting up, have a copy made (unless you have a spare), and file the sharp edges just a bit. If yours is already very worn, get another blank, file it into shape, and give it sharp edges.

Cheers,

Kennith
 
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dgosh28

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hafaday said:
Possibly needs to be matched to the BCU.. I'm not sure on this one.



If you bought a key with the FOB/Remote (key built into the remote), then yes, it will need to be programmed. the remote, that is. if it's just a key, pending on who cuts it it will work. supposedly some keys with no remote are some kind'a valet key (door, but no ignition). but a standard key can be cut and work fine, pending you find a good key cutter.

I had a second key cut. popped the key out of the fob, guy cuts key, key works.

Seventyfive was right...... some threads are in the wrong section. granted, it started as a Hello, now it's tech. Either way... hope you get it fixed.

Thanks for the input. I installed the ignition switch I purchased off eBay, that included two metal keys, and everything works fine so I will leave it the way it is for now and keep the original and backup as spares.
Since I am pretty new here I am not well versed on all the rules and protocols. I posted under the "General" section since I thought it would give some latitude to cover a variety of issues with a new vehicle, as opposed to starting a new thread for each and every one of the numerous problems I am bound to have getting this truck into shape. I didn't mean to step on any toes and I am grateful for the help you guys have offered. I am use to a much more informal setting on the forum I frequent when dealing with my Mercedes and didn't realize I was out of bounds. I'll wrap this thread up quickly and I'll be more careful in the future. Thanks again for your feedback.
 

dgosh28

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ArmyRover said:


Thank you for your service. I am the son of a combat medic in Korea and my daughter is currently on active duty in the Navy.

I appreciate the link. Do you happen to know if the driveshafts are made in the USA? The name implies that they may be produced in China, and although I am quite fond of Chinese people, I wouldn't be willing to purchase a critical component for my vehicle that was produced in China.
I will contact Justin tomorrow and see what he says.
 

dgosh28

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kennith said:
That's the one I was going to link. :D

If he's out of them, there are others here who can provide.

Just get it done. Screw waiting around. You've got a vehicle to enjoy. A DII isn't made of glass. The non-serviceable shaft was just a stupid choice for something that close to a cat.

Get a new one and drive the thing.

As for the key, you don't need anything special. I've got several remote-equipped keys, but only for convenience around town. When I'm out and about, I don't fuck with them. I just use a plain metal key. Blanks are readily available.

The remotes are only remotes. They serve no other purpose. They are only on the key to make it look cool and modern.

If your key is acting up, have a copy made (unless you have a spare), and file the sharp edges just a bit. If yours is already very worn, get another blank, file it into shape, and give it sharp edges.

Cheers,

Kennith


Thanks Kennith. Ignition switch issue is resolved and I will call Justin tomorrow to get information on the driveshaft.
 

kennith

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dgosh28 said:
Do you happen to know if the driveshafts are made in the USA? The name implies that they may be produced in China, and although I am quite fond of Chinese people, I wouldn't be willing to purchase a critical component for my vehicle that was produced in China.
I will contact Justin tomorrow and see what he says.

Lucky 8 is just the name of his business.

I don't know where it's made; but the name, in this case, isn't an indication of Asian manufacture.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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mbrummal said:
I got one of those because it was cheaper than getting the local dealer to do what I wanted. Worth every penny. (It is closer to $450-475 with the software license and shipping, though.)

I've got the MSV II, and it's awesome. I'll be picking up one of those nano units for simplicity in everyday operation, though.

I think everyone should have one of these things.

Cheers,

Kennith