New North American Land Rover magazine

SCSL

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This is certainly a well-travelled road, and one with considerable challenges. I wish you the best in making this happen (sincerely). Having watched this go down a few times first and second hand, here are my thoughts:

One of the challenges is that the divide among long-term LR enthuiasts and newer luxury vehicle buyers seems to grow larger every year. Given LRs commitment to the luxury space and abandonment of the solid axle off-road niche, this gap shows few signs of closing any time soon. The number of what might be called "crossover" enthuiasts (and I count myself among them) is a very small subset of an already small audience. The content must be so engaging and so unique that each subset of this small target market is equally intrigued. The capital requirements of producing such content appear to outmatch the return, so content quality slowly dwindles and with it, audience attention. This is the challenge you must overcome.

Make it easy to purchase a trial issue on your site for a reasonable price.

Have a good editor. There seems to be an inverse relationship between content enthusiasm and quality of writing. And if the event is good enough to cover, send a professional photographer and stand out. Contract writers are rarely good photographers, and vice versa (though they all think they're outstanding at both).

Go after established independent shops and cut them some aggressive ad deals. Know who these guys are around the country. They may need help with basic creative. Provide it.

Try to go a year without covering the Iceland scene. We know: they have some cool, big ass trucks. It's very fucking cold. They eat rotting fish. Etc.

Work with places like DWeb, not against them. This announcement could have been handled better, in cooperation with the site, and with Steve just being Steve. If you think this crowd is skeptical, wait until you try to sell to a new Discovery Sport owner. This site is a guaranteed (though somewhat jackassical) audience.

My only other advice is listen to your audience and remain flexible.

Good luck. Let me know if I can help.
 
Thanks for the honest perspective. You're right about a lot the issues we face. There's a reason it's taken three years to bring it this far.

Without a doubt, bridging the gap between the various owner types will be our biggest challenge. We have a content plan that should have something for everyone, from a Series collector to a first-time Range Rover owner. Regardless of the hardware divide between old and new vehicles, people still come to Land Rovers because they identify with a spirit of adventure and individuality. We hope to focus on that common bond rather create further division. A certain percentage of those new owners are often intrigued by the potential of their vehicles and looking to take their ownership to the next level, but clubs and forums typically don't welcome them with open arms. We're hoping to convert those on the edge. We recognize that for a lot of owners, a new LR or RR is just another trophy, and they'll be on to a Porsche or Jaguar or Bentley next time around. We aren't spending resources on those owners.

On the writing, I agree. Steve and I will be the editorial team. I have a roster of professional writers and photographers to call upon for quality content. The last thing we want is to produce something that's only mediocre.

On the marketing end, we have an arrangement that we're not yet ready to announce, but will get the first four issues into thousands of Land Rover enthusiast hands for free. More on that soon.

We've also designed our advertising plan to be accessible to small specialist shops, dismantlers, and outfitters. There will be a directory section specifically for these small businesses, and it will be priced appropriately.

No doubt there will be some growing pains, but we're open minded. However, we're hoping readers will be too. We have some ideas of our own, and sometimes you don't know what you like until you're surprised by something new.
 

Tugela

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Each issue will also feature a Series Guide, essentially a buyer's guide to a single model covering the history, year-by-year changes, special editions, specs, issues, and aftermarket options.

This is the kind of in-depth original content that is currently missing in the North American Rover magazines. Don't hold back on this concept. An 8-page spread each issue on this theme would be great.
 

Mongo

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I want to know where your going find "thousands" of Land rover enthusiasts...

Don't fool yourself, the Land Rover community is minuscule and without LRNA support and using their distribution network to reach the everyday owner, you'd be better off creating a E-Magazine.

Good Luck and hope it works out...
 

Howski

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It may not be the focus but I'd to see some trip reports or other outdoor activities might be included with a Land Rover tie-in. Limit the amount of poseur expo gear and tacticool crap that is reviewed. With few exceptions that typically makes me flip to the next article
 

emmodg

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Stick to online only and make it free like www.thisisfly.com or a small journal like META (dirt bike stuff). Magazines full of "tests" and "reports" are a dime-a-fucking-dozen.
 

Blueboy

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Having information on what is happening with Land Rover Heritage or now called Land Rover Classic would be interesting for me.

The article on your site is a good example.

Some parts for my RRC and D1 are NLA and getting info on LRC would be helpful.

Thanks.
 
Having information on what is happening with Land Rover Heritage or now called Land Rover Classic would be interesting for me.

The article on your site is a good example.

Some parts for my RRC and D1 are NLA and getting info on LRC would be helpful.

Thanks.

Owners of classic Land Rovers (Series/Defenders/RRC) are certainly a priority for us. Steve has a good relationship with the folks at Heritage/Classic. Great feedback for us.
 

chris snell

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I love the feel of a high-quality paper magazine a la O.J. but I wouldn't subscribe to one. It's not that I don't value the articles, it's just that my life now doesn't give me much time for reading paper. I sneak in reading whenever and wherever I can, on my smartphone, and this is why I am a Washington Post online subscriber. I wouldn't think of taking a paper with me everywhere I go.
 
There will certainly be a decent amount of content on the website for free. Our philosophy with the print magazine is to create a more immersive experience where you can sit down with it and not be redirected by all the link-outs and other distractions that typically define a digital reading experience. We're also hoping each issue will be memorable as a volume of work, in much the same way that sometimes a music album, as a collective work, is greater than the sum of its individual songs. Deep, perhaps, but that's not something I've yet to see in the digital content world.

The truth is we recognize that people get their news and entertainment through a variety of sources today. We're hoping we can hit on as many of those as possible in the most relevant way for the given content. Sometimes that will be a web article, sometimes that will be an 8-page print story, other times it might be through video. More likely than not, it will be a combination of media, which we also plan to explore.

The reality of launching a "magazine" today is that it's no longer defined as just a stack of 100 bound pages, but rather a "magazine-style approach" to connecting people through stories and images and technology. No one's yet come up with a better word for it than "magazine" though.
 

emmodg

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Good luck! It would seem to me that starting another magazine is akin to opening another restaurant in a place like Manhattan.

There are a lot of "journals" lately which is cool to a degree but spending money on something you only get 3-6 times a year takes patience. "Cool" photography is nice to look at but then it gets kinda old when it's just there to make up for good writing. Monocle is a fat magazine that seems like "too much" but the writing makes it easy to go through. I like online mags - you don't HAVE to click on anything and the "social aspect" is pretty cool.
 

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I don't care who writes this magazine. When you show up here and use the site to pimp your product without ever posting anything else, you're going to get the Muddy Chef treatment. Commerce is allowed here but there is no place for advertisements from first-time posters.

Yes Steve (English) has been on Dweb since 2004 and was the US editor for another well known LR mag for years. He has been at most L/R events I've been to and kept awareness of our east coast clubs in the public eye as long as I remember.

It is unfortunate he couldn't bring his Dweb past forward with his new name but he has been around